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subidowa 07-02-2021 04:57 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy83 (Post 20451353)
Happened to me around end of 2019.
This tattoo sleeve , clef lips person has cheated me before and some other bro as I read from previous post.

As for my ordeal with this clef lips, it was my first few ktv khakis outing experience so consider really new to it. Long story short, we went to zara for HH and extended to NH too. HH he ask me pay and pass him 100 as NH more ex and he will settle NH. And of cos in the end he disappeared at around 12am pretending to go toilet.

So I paid HH and NH. I also paid for the 3 girls he called for NH as I find that its not really the girls fault. All in all, I spent 1.3k that day.


Lesson I learn is
1)never pass money before hand.
2)Always let the papasan or mummy know that this is my first time meeting this person and to be aware. Best is to find khakis who knows the papasan or mummy so you roughly know he is sort of the regular there.
3) Don't trust ID created recently

Anyway as long is clef lips and tattoo sleeve, don't bother anymore.


Wa this "Borino" still around ah. Borino is the nick he used to cheat me last last year 2019 around CHRISTMAS Period. After i got cheated, i actually went to make two police reports and mentioned that i will post here if got updates. Sadly, i can confirm police won't bother such things, they only act as if they care and bo chup one see shows nia. So bros just take care COD only. Only till payment comes then see the one paying sign the card then pay him the cash.

Anyway last time already got people found out he stayed around punggol there. Anchorvale or what can't be bothered to remember. Actually, lately i saw this tekkan master posts or jessie posts i already feel might be him. He used the same tactic even till now. So bros don't give cash immediately, another thing to look out for is do not go with someone only recently join and total posts less than 20.

Anyway for those who are keen to roughly know how he looks like, he is a short fellow around 1.65m with tattooed arms and cleft lips.

I read thru, the recent incident, seems like he is a regular at the bencolen pub facing main road. He also met me there first when he cheated me last last year. So maybe u guys can go there ask around.

Anyway after two years, still surprise he is still using the same tactic cheating people. Never got caught or learn other stuffs. I am not so pissed off after two yearsl. Looking back, it is not the cash that matters. It is the trust he broke among SBF. So i hope he will get his retribution one day. So bros just take care yourselves.

subidowa 07-02-2021 05:02 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy83 (Post 20451353)
Happened to me around end of 2019.
This tattoo sleeve , clef lips person has cheated me before and some other bro as I read from previous post.

As for my ordeal with this clef lips, it was my first few ktv khakis outing experience so consider really new to it. Long story short, we went to zara for HH and extended to NH too. HH he ask me pay and pass him 100 as NH more ex and he will settle NH. And of cos in the end he disappeared at around 12am pretending to go toilet.

So I paid HH and NH. I also paid for the 3 girls he called for NH as I find that its not really the girls fault. All in all, I spent 1.3k that day.


Lesson I learn is
1)never pass money before hand.
2)Always let the papasan or mummy know that this is my first time meeting this person and to be aware. Best is to find khakis who knows the papasan or mummy so you roughly know he is sort of the regular there.
3) Don't trust ID created recently

Anyway as long is clef lips and tattoo sleeve, don't bother anymore.


Wa this "Borino" still around ah. Borino is the nick he used to cheat me last last year 2019 around CHRISTMAS Period. After i got cheated, i actually went to make two police reports and mentioned that i will post here if got updates. Sadly, i can confirm police won't bother such things, they only act as if they care and bo chup one see shows nia. So bros just take care COD only. Only till payment comes then see the one paying sign the card then pay him the cash.

Anyway last time already got people found out he stayed around punggol there. Anchorvale or what can't be bothered to remember. Actually, lately i saw this tekkan master posts or jessie posts i already feel might be him. He used the same tactic even till now. So bros don't give cash immediately, another thing to look out for is do not go with someone only recently join and total posts less than 20.

Anyway for those who are keen to roughly know how he looks like, he is a short fellow around 1.65m with tattooed arms and cleft lips.

I read thru, the recent incident, seems like he is a regular at the bencolen pub facing main road. He also met me there first when he cheated me last last year. So maybe u guys can go there ask around.

Anyway after two years, still surprise he is still using the same tactic cheating people. Never got caught or learn other stuffs. I am not so pissed off after two yearsl. Looking back, it is not the cash that matters. It is the trust he broke among SBF. So i hope he will get his retribution one day. So bros just take care yourselves.

subidowa 07-02-2021 05:07 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andy83 (Post 20451353)
Happened to me around end of 2019.
This tattoo sleeve , clef lips person has cheated me before and some other bro as I read from previous post.

As for my ordeal with this clef lips, it was my first few ktv khakis outing experience so consider really new to it. Long story short, we went to zara for HH and extended to NH too. HH he ask me pay and pass him 100 as NH more ex and he will settle NH. And of cos in the end he disappeared at around 12am pretending to go toilet.

So I paid HH and NH. I also paid for the 3 girls he called for NH as I find that its not really the girls fault. All in all, I spent 1.3k that day.


Lesson I learn is
1)never pass money before hand.
2)Always let the papasan or mummy know that this is my first time meeting this person and to be aware. Best is to find khakis who knows the papasan or mummy so you roughly know he is sort of the regular there.
3) Don't trust ID created recently

Anyway as long is clef lips and tattoo sleeve, don't bother anymore.


Wa this "Borino" still around ah. Borino is the nick he used to cheat me last last year 2019 around CHRISTMAS Period. After i got cheated, i actually went to make two police reports and mentioned that i will post here if got updates. Sadly, i can confirm police won't bother such things, they only act as if they care and bo chup one see shows nia. So bros just take care COD only. Only till payment comes then see the one paying sign the card then pay him the cash.

Anyway last time already got people found out he stayed around punggol there. Anchorvale or what can't be bothered to remember. Actually, lately i saw this tekkan master posts or jessie posts i already feel might be him. He used the same tactic even till now. So bros don't give cash immediately, another thing to look out for is do not go with someone only recently join and total posts less than 20.

Anyway for those who are keen to roughly know how he looks like, he is a short fellow around 1.65m with tattooed arms and cleft lips.

I read thru, the recent incident, seems like he is a regular at the bencolen pub facing main road. He also met me there first when he cheated me last last year. So maybe u guys can go there ask around.

Anyway after two years, still surprise he is still using the same tactic cheating people. Never got caught or learn other stuffs. I am not so pissed off after two yearsl. Looking back, it is not the cash that matters. It is the trust he broke among SBF. So i hope he will get his retribution one day. So bros just take care yourselves.

今晚打老虎. 07-02-2021 07:16 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by formidable (Post 20450709)
Regardless of good rapport psychology especially first time meetup , always COD (cash on delivery) ,when bill came then pay together. Without real name nric contact number , maybe is hard to trace. His work profile maybe fake too.
Sorry to hear that.Thanks for sharing

thanks for sharing bro...

181cm 07-02-2021 08:01 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freekills4me (Post 20460888)
Thanks bro for your advice. Normally how much do people actually tip per night to actually get someone to stay with you long enough? I went to one recently but with inexperienced people 😂 overall experience was not bad but can feel like kena chop since I myself spent around 500 for tips alone.. Wanted to know how is it normally done with experienced people

Wa bro you spend 500 on tips?!? That’s crazy. 500 should get you enough for the girl to stay with you and even dabao, usually my damage is 100 for butterfly (meaning they will just stay with you awhile and go to other customers) or 300 for a booking and they will just be with you the whole night. Where did you went??? I went Zara last night and dabao this really chio (but plastic) vn girl, the damage about 800+.

HIVsucks_XXX 08-02-2021 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 181cm (Post 20462526)
Wa bro you spend 500 on tips?!? That’s crazy. 500 should get you enough for the girl to stay with you and even dabao, usually my damage is 100 for butterfly (meaning they will just stay with you awhile and go to other customers) or 300 for a booking and they will just be with you the whole night. Where did you went??? I went Zara last night and dabao this really chio (but plastic) vn girl, the damage about 800+.

$800+?

Wow man, times really good for these girls.

freekills4me 08-02-2021 07:50 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 181cm (Post 20462526)
Wa bro you spend 500 on tips?!? That’s crazy. 500 should get you enough for the girl to stay with you and even dabao, usually my damage is 100 for butterfly (meaning they will just stay with you awhile and go to other customers) or 300 for a booking and they will just be with you the whole night. Where did you went??? I went Zara last night and dabao this really chio (but plastic) vn girl, the damage about 800+.

Lol bro... I first time there and just gave to whoever that came my way. Will see what I can learn from my next trip there soon. One shot you gave 300 tips or through the night 300. I not sure where is went but is one of those Thai ones.

WOOHOO 08-02-2021 08:27 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Wow WOO must change job le $500 tips? $300 tips?
Kekrkeke :p:p:p:p

181cm 09-02-2021 01:13 AM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freekills4me (Post 20464163)
Lol bro... I first time there and just gave to whoever that came my way. Will see what I can learn from my next trip there soon. One shot you gave 300 tips or through the night 300. I not sure where is went but is one of those Thai ones.

I usually pay the girls at the end of the night, then nego with them for any round 2 or whether she wants to go back to my place or hotel then if the price is comfortable with you then you just give. But if you’re there just for the company during drinks, I would say 100 tips for the KTVs with vietnam girls is fine don’t have to give 300. That’s my opinion

XXXPPP 09-02-2021 05:19 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Any one got session tonight? Pls PM me.

stevehunting 13-02-2021 01:32 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Happy CNY brothers
Any CNY events ?

teenraven 13-02-2021 04:45 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Lol now still can ktv meh? I thought best only bistro

qifantasy 14-02-2021 06:23 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Hi bro....

I left this ktv for close to 2 yrs.
Recently i revisit the peace centre get to know a girl there
Wanted to know any old bird around to give me some tips on how to tabao
Cause i come to like a girl there wanted to tabao her but she say she doesnt dunno is it true anot or my rate and skill is not there
Any old bird who is regular can advise
Can pm me privately not so nice to discuss ooenly
Last time there use to be a ktv group at wechat unfortunately i lose the contact

holicks 15-02-2021 10:53 AM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Let's unite and chase these joints that charge crazy tips away.

damong777 15-02-2021 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qifantasy (Post 20473163)
Hi bro....

I left this ktv for close to 2 yrs.
Recently i revisit the peace centre get to know a girl there
Wanted to know any old bird around to give me some tips on how to tabao
Cause i come to like a girl there wanted to tabao her but she say she doesnt dunno is it true anot or my rate and skill is not there
Any old bird who is regular can advise
Can pm me privately not so nice to discuss ooenly
Last time there use to be a ktv group at wechat unfortunately i lose the contact

Dabao depends one...someone already got people dabao already, she do not like you, she got bao by people or she do not go at all due to certain reason (married need to go home etc)

Really depend on chemistry. Like my gal now, when I go now, will follow for 2nd round without asking

damong777 15-02-2021 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holicks (Post 20474218)
Let's unite and chase these joints that charge crazy tips away.

Difficult in this environment
Gals not enough
Demand super high
People willing to pay

damong777 15-02-2021 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teenraven (Post 20471396)
Lol now still can ktv meh? I thought best only bistro

Ktv open since dec 2020 just cannot sing inside. Rest mostly back to sop except for tips go up to 100 min now

kevin82 17-02-2021 10:26 AM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
I'm looking for steady and frequent KTV kakis. Please PM me if interested as I thinking of starting a group that is willing to chiong anytime HH or SH.

No scams. Just looking for a good time and damage equally shared. Preference for Viet joints mostly.

PM only if interested.

seanleo 17-02-2021 07:14 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 3someking (Post 20458701)
Bro what kind of food they sell? Got sell pizza? I tink i saw photo of pizza when they advertise their menu before. Anyway got viets?

Got quite a variety of food

Personally like the oysters, fresh... After that can pump hard.

Pricing-wise, bang for buck, considering that many other places are super ex.

natchang 18-02-2021 01:45 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanleo (Post 20458570)
Went down to the lord this week.

Pretty girls, and had an enjoyable time.

Can look for YY mm (WeChat: kosaoem123), she makes the best arrangements

Looking for one session next week... bros who wanna drink tgt, PM me.

Split booze expenditure equally.

Keen. U going this week? I've pm u.

kevin82 21-02-2021 08:27 AM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Still looking for regular kakis.

PM me if interested.

OldJohnny 21-02-2021 10:45 AM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
I'm looking for steady and frequent KTV kakis as well. My ex-hangout FC, SC, L9, supreme and now MYTH. Might go back SC after re-opening soon. :o.

Current kakis not enough fund to go often due to the price increase :(

Only COD, no advance payment. :cool:

Bros can PM me.

subidowa 21-02-2021 04:17 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by damong777 (Post 20474313)
Difficult in this environment
Gals not enough
Demand super high
People willing to pay

Not true. There is a way to counter this as long as the bros unite.

Gals not enough - i do not believe this. They bullshit and people actually believe this and raise the price so much higher. Where can these ex ktv girls go and work without proper skills and passes/permits etc. Times are better than never before for them for we are held ransom by limiting our play in SG only. If you pay more believing that girls are not enough then they will take your money to spend and laugh at you. If you pay them fair enough, they will also serve u accordingly. After all staying in Singapore is costly. If no customers go and pay so much, they will still settle for lesser as they still need to pay bills.

Demand super high - This is just a period of time cause too long bros never play liao. The spending and level of playability which the girls can provide is not on the balance. Doesn't justify the rates at all. Sooner or later, those brothers with lower level of moolah will not be able to go and those richer bros will also not go. In general rich bros are quite practical and money smart. They know what they paid for and what they should get back.


People willing to pay - This is the main problem. Gov is too helpful and so far we never face any serious problem like really no job no food no money and hungry to die issue. Somemore gov keeps on giving out money. Not that it is not good but some might be misused to go into support this kind of unrealistic lifestyle. Many bros are still spending till wallet empty every month and having not realise the importance of having spare money. This will make these girls feel we singaporean guys are such suckers that willing to pay more and more even when they provide sux service.


As for the counter measure:

I have been thinking about us been trapped here no choice but to spend and being exploited here. What about the girls that are also here. Actually they are blessed to be in SINGAPORE. Tell me where in the world can be as safe, as free and as rich in SINGAPORE nowadays. Our covid rate is dropping to close to zero, other than not having the usual night life, we can still do things as per normal (walking around the streets, shopping, eating, working and no lock down). Being the best performing and stable country in the world a lot of money from the riches are also flocking into SINGAPORE. I am so proud of my country and those who are here should be grateful. But these girls are leeches. Do you know those pass holders, permit holders outside with proper jobs are facing termination issues and even if they want to go back see their new born babies they also cannot go as due to our previous bad record, from Singapore go other countries we might need to quarantine 14 days and depending on where you come back from you might need to quarantine up to 14 days too. These costs are self bear and high chance Singapore will not allow them to come back if they leave the country.

So these girls should be grateful our rich country are still keeping them not sending them back to bear the costs of quarantine and not able to come back to our rich country to leech or exploit us. I suppose our gov will eventually even give free injection to them and everyone in SINGPORE. Our country treat them so well and this is how they repay us and even threaten us for tips too little???

OMG, brothers wake up, if they threaten you all, just report to the police they conduct vice activities in FNB outlets, their passes or permits will be cancelled and sent back immediately. If they go back, they have to bear all the costs of quarantine, flights and etc and no chance of coming back in the near future. When they are back in their countries and being locked down and no where to earn money. Then they will realise how good SINGAPORE has been treating them.

Brothers do not give in to exploitation, if they threaten you, just report them. Who has more to lose you all go consider. Actually, if anyone sees they quarrel over tips being ridiculous just report them. So even during investigation they will still have to shut down. This should wake them up.

subidowa 21-02-2021 11:54 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Just came back from a pub. On sunday, there isn't much or any grls to entertain the guys. Maybe i say around four or five. They tried to chat with us but the playability isn't there. In the end no tip is given to them at all. The girls also understand. Which is quite good. So guys please wake up. Not everything must give tips. They themsevles know who are going to give tips or the service is worth tipping or not. If u are threaten just report police and close the outlet down and let the girl or girls involved go back. We do not need them to leech on SINGPOREAN at all.. The outlet should also be forced close down for not ensuring our SINGAPOREAN to have fun first priority. SOrry to sound abit like TRUMP but i do hope the best for SINGAPOREAN. Now is they wanna stay here not we die die must patronise them.

holicks 22-02-2021 01:13 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Totally agree. There is seriously no difference (at least to me) in drinking at a coffeeshop or these bistro/ktv. Why pay for the waiter, mummy tips. If want gal, just drink at coffeeshop then go massage.

yagami90 22-02-2021 02:39 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Hi,

Anyone has plans tonight? Keen to join. Pm me.

DannyW 22-02-2021 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subidowa (Post 20486096)
Just came back from a pub. On sunday, there isn't much or any grls to entertain the guys. Maybe i say around four or five. They tried to chat with us but the playability isn't there. In the end no tip is given to them at all. The girls also understand. Which is quite good. So guys please wake up. Not everything must give tips. They themsevles know who are going to give tips or the service is worth tipping or not. If u are threaten just report police and close the outlet down and let the girl or girls involved go back. We do not need them to leech on SINGPOREAN at all.. The outlet should also be forced close down for not ensuring our SINGAPOREAN to have fun first priority. SOrry to sound abit like TRUMP but i do hope the best for SINGAPOREAN. Now is they wanna stay here not we die die must patronise them.

Very well said. Your long post above.

To add on a lot of foreign girls are working illegally because their s-pass or work permit is not renewed. They are staying here under visit pass which is extended regularly because they cannot go back home. There is very limited number of flight back to vietnam at this moment.

I won’t say they are “leeching” but it’s just demand & supply. They are surviving on bros who dun mind paying the current price so let it be. We just let the market correct itself.

WOOHOO 22-02-2021 08:24 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyW (Post 20487355)
Very well said. Your long post above.

To add on a lot of foreign girls are working illegally because their s-pass or work permit is not renewed. They are staying here under visit pass which is extended regularly because they cannot go back home. There is very limited number of flight back to vietnam at this moment.

I won’t say they are “leeching” but it’s just demand & supply. They are surviving on bros who dun mind paying the current price so let it be. We just let the market correct itself.

WOOHOO UPZ

WOOHOO 22-02-2021 08:25 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by holicks (Post 20486931)
Totally agree. There is seriously no difference (at least to me) in drinking at a coffeeshop or these bistro/ktv. Why pay for the waiter, mummy tips. If want gal, just drink at coffeeshop then go massage.

WOOHOO UPZ

subidowa 22-02-2021 08:41 PM

Re: KTV Kakis
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DannyW (Post 20487355)
Very well said. Your long post above.

To add on a lot of foreign girls are working illegally because their s-pass or work permit is not renewed. They are staying here under visit pass which is extended regularly because they cannot go back home. There is very limited number of flight back to vietnam at this moment.

I won’t say they are “leeching” but it’s just demand & supply. They are surviving on bros who dun mind paying the current price so let it be. We just let the market correct itself.

Wow bro thanks for the input. I didn't know some could be illegal working too. Now there is extra bullet for the bros here. When the outlets or girls didn't ensure singaporean fun first then better report them. If as u said illegal working i believe is not so simple as send back already. Same for the outlets who allow them to work there.

Bro if they charge according to the level of playability i am fine with paying more. I believe most average SINGAPOREAN like me are very reasonable and understanding. We have similar education and upbringing after all. For us to be so dulan, they must have done something very very wrong.

Now there is abundant supply for the increase in demand cause all of us are stuck here. Don't believe in those bullshits they said about no girls. Where can all those ex ktv girls go. When i say leech, i am saying those girls who openly provide sux service and yet dare to charge and ask so much. If you are unwilling to pay high tip still got the face to quarrel machiam they are correct and entitled to be paid so highly for their sux service. They dare to do so cause i can tell u we SINGAPOREAN are damn shy bunch of people. We will usually try to make peace and settle things quietly if not very paiseh to be the center of attention. Because of that, just because the tips is not enough for the lady, they openly raise their voices at u trying to make u paiseh and give in eventually by settle with money. Next time just call police for them. Tell them i help u report police saying my tip is too little when there is no standard rate or must pay rate agreed in the first place. Shout no use we call police to judge lo. FAIR ????

BTW wait for the market to correct itself and it is proven many times the market will go higher cause SINGPAPOREAN are too kind too stupid plus too rich . Rather than seeing us SINGAPOREAN guys to be more and more suckers.

Now i define for you all standard tips $30 if really good then $50.
Definitely no $100 and definitely don't allow butterfly after u paid booking fee.
If you all feel $30 is not enough think about it not long ago is even $20 lo. Bros don't just go with the flow and just because everything increase in prices, you all must also pay higher. Did your salary increase 50% even???

THINK bros...


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