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helmsley 15-07-2021 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by r.fowler (Post 20738376)
these wetnam bu or hostesses bunk in with differents vegetables working in different 'F&Bs bistros'

even though there are 5 KTVs identified, i think there could be more..

is it a coincidence that lately straits time reported divorce rate is low and now these zhut zhut clusters occured? Straits time should ask for a recount after this episode.

These F&B bistros are a joke. More like Fuck & Blow bistros

Morning1999 15-07-2021 03:24 AM

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This is the stay low period.

funny4sg 15-07-2021 07:25 AM

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Well said. I give you 3 thousand claps. Because people are doggy and afraid to get tested, I reckon the cluster will grow to be much much bigger than the 台湾万华阿公店 saga ...

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Originally Posted by helmsley (Post 20739882)
These F&B bistros are a joke. More like Fuck & Blow bistros


r.fowler 15-07-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Morning1999 (Post 20740020)
This is the stay low period.

this period really gonna stay low. not sure KTVs, i think they will go all out to check on even on massage parlours where the authority know that these places provide more than just massage.

ah_jo 15-07-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by helmsley (Post 20739873)
Was reading the news about this. It’s the biggest lie ever told. Fucking hilarious.

technically not wrong, they arent employed by the establishment BUT also not there to eat for sure and confirm not paying customers also.

All the operators can say is they go in and find kangtao on their own and operators cannot stop.

But to allow dice and games, this one sure will kena 9696 by authorities.

However, now with the Satay hero, i hope more will come forward for testing, to prevent further spread of the wuhan virus

helmsley 15-07-2021 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ah_jo (Post 20740619)
technically not wrong, they arent employed by the establishment BUT also not there to eat for sure and confirm not paying customers also.

All the operators can say is they go in and find kangtao on their own and operators cannot stop.

But to allow dice and games, this one sure will kena 9696 by authorities.

However, now with the Satay hero, i hope more will come forward for testing, to prevent further spread of the wuhan virus

Yeah true. They went there and eat sausages

Riverwalk 15-07-2021 06:16 PM

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The big Q is how come social visit allowed here during Covid?

TheIdesOfMarch 15-07-2021 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20741055)
Suddenly closed. :eek:

ORBIGOOD AH.

Karma for them, since they were the FIRST place in Singapore to ownself act clever and ban anyone whose TT records show they may have been in close contact or been somewhere visited by a Covid case.

Little did they know it's THEIR OWN HUMSUP driving instructors that might have very well breached their "defences".

NO SYMPATHY FOR THE FUCKERS.

nycheong 15-07-2021 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch (Post 20741075)
ORBIGOOD AH.

Karma for them, since they were the FIRST place in Singapore to ownself act clever and ban anyone whose TT records show they may have been in close contact or been somewhere visited by a Covid case.

Little did they know it's THEIR OWN HUMSUP driving instructors that might have very well breached their "defences".

NO SYMPATHY FOR THE FUCKERS.

Aiyoh its the admin clerk infected by her husband lah.

malaysiapig 15-07-2021 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by helmsley (Post 20739882)
These F&B bistros are a joke. More like Fuck & Blow bistros

OK, now I learn what's mean F&B license :D:D:D

sexmeister69 16-07-2021 12:15 AM

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88 cases and counting, now not just KTVs & Pubs, CDC Ubi and PCF childcare are latest casualties, this seems to be getting outta hand and the govt needs to quickly get ahead of the curve to stop it for excabating. :(

novitalam 16-07-2021 02:51 AM

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novitalam 16-07-2021 03:04 AM

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https://s6.gifyu.com/images/ScreenRe...a52959efb8.gif

i dont think i will get covid by doing this right??

novitalam 16-07-2021 03:14 AM

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sill in time to post, if u want see more gif , pic or videos
Pls upz me, I will share full videos in due course and ready to charge all the MLsssss
and Hostesses >..Hahhahaa

nycheong 16-07-2021 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by funboi (Post 20741808)
Do you agree with is anonymous analysis? :confused:

Likely to be rumours

r.fowler 16-07-2021 09:22 AM

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the sponsored bf must be sweating in his pants now.


SINGAPORE - The woman who is the first case linked to the growing KTV cluster of Covid-19 infections is a short-term visit pass holder from Vietnam who entered Singapore in February via the familial ties lane, sponsored by her Singaporean boyfriend.

In their release, the two agencies noted that 54 cases of Covid-19 were linked to the KTV cluster as at Wednesday (July 14). Of the 54 cases, 30 are non-Singaporeans.

Among them were

two permanent residents,
14 work pass holders,
one student’s pass holder,
five long-term visit pass holders and
eight short-term visit pass holders.

nycheong 16-07-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by r.fowler (Post 20741939)
the sponsored bf must be sweating in his pants now.


SINGAPORE - The woman who is the first case linked to the growing KTV cluster of Covid-19 infections is a short-term visit pass holder from Vietnam who entered Singapore in February via the familial ties lane, sponsored by her Singaporean boyfriend.

In their release, the two agencies noted that 54 cases of Covid-19 were linked to the KTV cluster as at Wednesday (July 14). Of the 54 cases, 30 are non-Singaporeans.

Among them were

two permanent residents,
14 work pass holders,
one student’s pass holder,
five long-term visit pass holders and
eight short-term visit pass holders.

More to come wait for announcement

omnia 16-07-2021 11:57 AM

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good post buddy!

LoL when OYK and LW acted disappointed, frustrated and angry wrt this ktv bistro cluster situation...worse yet so quick to blame others, when it is so obvious that this sort of situation was likely to happen due to basic human nature...

Govt made a huge mistake of allowing these ktv bistros to open when it is obvious that it is just not feasible and practical to effectively ensure enforcement of health protocols and restrictions...

Can't grapple with this huge govt mistake since it always so quick to impose other restrictions not only on Covid matters but also sale of alcohol in certain areas in the early evening for eg.

Really smell a rat why the ktv bistros biz was given the green light?!...

I really pity other bizs that may now suffer the economic consequences due to this terrible mistake by the Govt...LW alreading hinting ominously of thinking of imposing restrictions once again...


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Originally Posted by TheIdesOfMarch (Post 20739503)
No use. The problem isn't in the KTVs operating past permitted hours.

The problem is the entire business model, which is basically vice and prostitution with extra expensive steps for Roberts to show off their wealth. Thanks to the idiots in government closing down GL for what looks like to be a permanent thing, demand for sexual vice trade has only shifted to areas far more difficult and sensitive to police, if not totally underground instead.

No nice and tidy ending for this. I have a feeling this will be yet another watershed moment where we see the government abandoning pragmatism and going straight for ideological and religious dogma to clamp down on vice without thinking of unintended consequences.

And it's also fucked up la, legit KTVs like Teoheng and Maneki Kinoko have to close shop but these KTVs can still operate... just because their business model is based off selling alcohol and the money drawn in by hostesses (commissions, fees, patronage etc).


fordnite69 16-07-2021 12:29 PM

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"Give an inch and they'll take a mile" this has largely been the government's playbook for most part of the covid situation, although got some lapses here and there by the government.

but i think after this incident the government not gonna take chances already. confirm go hard on these places. they always have the means and resources to crack down on them but pang chance only.

Smallheadrules 16-07-2021 12:36 PM

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In the first place , how come stb/gov never deploy SDA to this so call KTV turn F&b.

We have seen SDA all over the place in hawker center, shopping malls, stand alone restaurant but how come ktv f&b license don't have ? If they have been deploy today we will not see all this cluster

nycheong 16-07-2021 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallheadrules (Post 20742287)
In the first place , how come stb/gov never deploy SDA to this so call KTV turn F&b.

We have seen SDA all over the place in hawker center, shopping malls, stand alone restaurant but how come ktv f&b license don't have ? If they have been deploy today we will not see all this cluster

Yes.. why? SDA also on cruise ship. Its a big mistake by MOH/SFA

omnia 16-07-2021 01:05 PM

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bigger mistake was to allow these so called ktv bistros to open in the first place...particularly with the super infectious delta variant out there and the vaccination process/herd immunity not complete...

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Originally Posted by nycheong (Post 20742314)
Yes.. why? SDA also on cruise ship. Its a big mistake by MOH/SFA


nycheong 16-07-2021 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by omnia (Post 20742323)
bigger mistake was to allow these so called ktv bistros to open in the first place...particularly with the super infectious delta variant out there and the vaccination process/herd immunity not complete...

If dont allow this business sector operators to do business they will kaobei kaobu. Like the cruise industry all they need is SDA to do the job of inspection and get police involved to enforce the rules if need be.

Naka_Timo 16-07-2021 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by omnia (Post 20742323)
bigger mistake was to allow these so called ktv bistros to open in the first place...particularly with the super infectious delta variant out there and the vaccination process/herd immunity not complete...

I think should blame the owner of KTV. they know they should convert to bistro and should not have hostress but end up it was not converted, said converted but not converted at all.

As for opening up, i think have to leave with it. If keep closing. How to survive?

I know there a lot of anti government here but look at it in a bigger picture. Look at what happen in thailand and malaysia. Governement cannot control and not doing anything or even pocket the money to buy vaccine as well as this period still care about own power and status. We are fortunate we does not have this happening.

Since thing happen now, no point talking as a lot is talking like they very clever should do that should do this but i think what should be done is how to mitgrate it instead of talking.

too_hot 16-07-2021 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by omnia (Post 20742323)
bigger mistake was to allow these so called ktv bistros to open in the first place...particularly with the super infectious delta variant out there and the vaccination process/herd immunity not complete...

The government trying to let people and their business survive and these morons ABUSE it and you blame the govt?? Seriously??

too_hot 16-07-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Naka_Timo (Post 20742350)
I think should blame the owner of KTV. they know they should convert to bistro and should not have hostress but end up it was not converted, said converted but not converted at all.

As for opening up, i think have to leave with it. If keep closing. How to survive?

I know there a lot of anti government here but look at it in a bigger picture. Look at what happen in thailand and malaysia. Governement cannot control and not doing anything or even pocket the money to buy vaccine as well as this period still care about own power and status. We are fortunate we does not have this happening.

Since thing happen now, no point talking as a lot is talking like they very clever should do that should do this but i think what should be done is how to mitgrate it instead of talking.

People just want to blame govt for everything. It's so convenient and easy. Don't take any accountability or responsibility. As a COMMUNITY we must ALL do our part. Otherwise whatever it is, policies will not work.

Naka_Timo 16-07-2021 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by too_hot (Post 20742359)
People just want to blame govt for everything. It's so convenient and easy. Don't take any accountability or responsibility. As a COMMUNITY we must ALL do our part. Otherwise whatever it is, policies will not work.

These how we think, there are many who like likewise.

nycheong 16-07-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Naka_Timo (Post 20742350)
I think should blame the owner of KTV. they know they should convert to bistro and should not have hostress but end up it was not converted, said converted but not converted at all.

As for opening up, i think have to leave with it. If keep closing. How to survive?

I know there a lot of anti government here but look at it in a bigger picture. Look at what happen in thailand and malaysia. Governement cannot control and not doing anything or even pocket the money to buy vaccine as well as this period still care about own power and status. We are fortunate we does not have this happening.

Since thing happen now, no point talking as a lot is talking like they very clever should do that should do this but i think what should be done is how to mitgrate it instead of talking.

Totally agreed. When they announced to allow Bistro there was no Delta Variant yet

Naka_Timo 16-07-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nycheong (Post 20742405)
Totally agreed. When they announced to allow Bistro there was no Delta Variant yet

The question is that, convert to bistro is under license of F & B. maybe got alchool license too but i dont tink will have entertainment license. IF need viet gal, viet gal must have work permit as waitress or server or crew not hostress.
if have bisto license, i think these may not happen

omnia 16-07-2021 03:18 PM

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Since when has this Govt been known to give in just becuz biz makes noise so long as the Govt believes it is doing the right thing and in the best interests of the country?

As for the enforcement issue, agree with you here...but practically is it effectively feasible in a ktv bistro setting?...perhaps only way would be to have a Govt enforcement officer stationed permanently at each and every ktv bistro on a full time basis?...

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Originally Posted by nycheong (Post 20742340)
If dont allow this business sector operators to do business they will kaobei kaobu. Like the cruise industry all they need is SDA to do the job of inspection and get police involved to enforce the rules if need be.

Don't get me wrong...i am not exculpating the ktv bistros' owners responsibilities and obligations...they are liable no doubt...

That said I hold the Govt to blame as well...because it should have known or ought to have known that these ktv owners turned so called ktv bistro owners would not follow the restrictions...becuz these are nightlife/vice type of biz owners...not pure f&b type biz owners...

If the Govt wanted to give these ktv owners the green light than the Govt should have at least ensured a practically feasible effective enforcement of restrictions method be put in place first and properly executed....

On the issue of opening up...i am all for it as we move into learning how to live with covid...actually when phase 3(heightened alert) was coming into play i felt the Govt was wrong to start off with 2pax in the f&b trade...to me the Govt should have been brave enough to just revert to the original 5pax...i think the economic benefits would outweigh the social risks under the circumstances...

Also I am not anti Govt for the sake of being anti Govt...if the Govt has done good I shall say so...for instance I think it has done a great job with the vaccination process...also I think it has generally handled this terrible pandemic quite well, save for initially not stopping prc who had some contact with Wuhan from coming into Singapore when Covid first broke out in Wuhan, especially when the prc Govt itself had ring fenced Wuhan...that and the foreign workers dorm issue...

Oh and just becuz one gives criticism against the Govt does not mean that one should consider migration...a bit extreme bah?

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Originally Posted by Naka_Timo (Post 20742350)
I think should blame the owner of KTV. they know they should convert to bistro and should not have hostress but end up it was not converted, said converted but not converted at all.

As for opening up, i think have to leave with it. If keep closing. How to survive?

I know there a lot of anti government here but look at it in a bigger picture. Look at what happen in thailand and malaysia. Governement cannot control and not doing anything or even pocket the money to buy vaccine as well as this period still care about own power and status. We are fortunate we does not have this happening.

Since thing happen now, no point talking as a lot is talking like they very clever should do that should do this but i think what should be done is how to mitgrate it instead of talking.



Handling Covid has been a fluid dynamic process from the very beginning to date becuz it is a new virus and we still learning how to deal and handle it as best as can be...

So just becuz there was no delta variant when the Govt gave the green light for the ktv bistros does not mean that the Govt should not have at least considered revising its ktv bistro policy once more was known about the delta variant, particularly when it was discovered in Singapore...

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Originally Posted by nycheong (Post 20742405)
Totally agreed. When they announced to allow Bistro there was no Delta Variant yet



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