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Rickey 06-12-2021 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by imom (Post 20976842)
Also nice to see Greenwood back and assisting, plus valuable minutes for Elanga.

How abt the energetic Lingard who hv been scoring a lot of goals for them, where was he ??...he wasn't even a member of the whole team, didn't even see him on the bench this time round :(...why they so bad to freeze him n leave him out in the cold ???..wat has he done wrong to them ???....sigh...any bros here care to enlighten ??

The management n the manager will pay for ignoring him when he joins another team like West Ham where he was previously on loan there n score many goals against them in the future....teach them a lesson for ignoring n mistreating good n loyal servants

lacoruna69 06-12-2021 10:51 AM

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Lucky win from an unlikely scorer. Could have been a draw if Palace were a lot more sharper.

The first half was scintillating.....but always lack that killer instinct.

Can see Rangnick wasn't too happy with the performance. He probably knew he had much much work to do.
McKenna probably had a more busy day answering queries from his new boss .:D

Still 3 points in the bag....that is the most important.

P.S. Oh dear, I couldn't recognize Patrick Vieira...lol.

imom 06-12-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey (Post 20976907)
How abt the energetic Lingard who hv been scoring a lot of goals for them, where was he ??....

Lingard and Martial both injured in training.

Rickey 06-12-2021 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tai_zi21 (Post 20976377)
I like the way how they press the opp player… but BF doesn’t seem to be playing tat gd today… hopefully second half will be better

This guy doesn't seem to be good every day...depends on who is the opposition...if the opposition is a tough nut to crack, he gets very moody n play badly...he siao siao one

Rickey 06-12-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by imom (Post 20977149)
Lingard and Martial both injured in training.

Thks imom for the info :)

ilovepantyhose 06-12-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by imom (Post 20976842)
First half an hour was the most dominant display by Utd in recent memory. Guess they don't have the stamina to sustain it for 90 mins just yet, as they faded for the rest of the match. Still managed to keep control for the most part and still retained above 60% possession. Most importantly, a clean sheet!

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Originally Posted by lacoruna69 (Post 20976929)
Lucky win from an unlikely scorer. Could have been a draw if Palace were a lot more sharper.

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to add on:
- CR7 had quite a handful of half-chances, he could have scored if the final pass to him/his footwork was better

- dalot played well and was more threatening down his flank, looks like AWB will lose his place if he doesn't improve

- mctom and fred are prone to making poor passes, such errors will result in a goal by a top-6 club

- man u are still vulnerable to set pieces, the players switched off and almost conceded before fred's goal

- player management, how will rangnick rotate CR7? asking a 36yo player to do high intensity pressing every match is not realistic as he may take more time to recover than the younger players

- in the short term, rangnick will have to focus on maintaining control/tempo and improving the defensive aspects of the game. long term wise, become good enough to challenge for the title. the appointment of rangnick is better late than never

asiancigar 07-12-2021 07:24 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjB_Vn7IhbQ

imom 07-12-2021 03:44 PM

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Expect wholesale changes to the first 11 against Palace by Rangnick, as we have already qualified top of the group. Henderson, Bailly, Wan-Bissaka, Van De Beek, Matic and Greenwood should start. May also see Mata, Elanga and maybe even Mengi. Plus Martial if he has recovered. Think Lingard is still out, if not he probably would have started.

This team might find it tough against a Young Boys team fighting for Europa qualification. Suspect might be a draw, but I shall be optimistic again.

Manchester United 2 : 1 Young Boys

Rickey 07-12-2021 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by imom (Post 20979172)
Expect wholesale changes to the first 11 against Palace by Rangnick, as we have already qualified top of the group. Henderson, Bailly, Wan-Bissaka, Van De Beek, Matic and Greenwood should start. May also see Mata, Elanga and maybe even Mengi. Plus Martial if he has recovered. Think Lingard is still out, if not he probably would have started.

This team might find it tough against a Young Boys team fighting for Europa qualification. Suspect might be a draw, but I shall be optimistic again.

Manchester United 2 : 1 Young Boys

Wat happens if they lose...can they still qualify for the last 16 ???...if Rangnick field a strong team they can defeat Young Boys with at least the abv scoreline :)...but if they field a rojak team of good n bad players then think no chance to win...draw at most :(

imom 07-12-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickey (Post 20979360)
Wat happens if they lose...can they still qualify for the last 16 ???...

We can lose 0-10, and we will still be top of Group F.

Villarreal need to win to get level on points with us. The tie-breaker is then the head-to-head points between the two teams. In our two matches with Villarreal, we have 6 points, they have 0. Beat them twice.

Group F basically only 2nd and 3rd place to be decided.

From UEFA documents:

"Article 17 Equality of points – group stage
17.01

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings:

a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;

b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;

c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;

d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to k) apply in the order given to the two or more teams still equal;

e. superior goal difference in all group matches;

f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

g. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;

h. higher number of wins in all group matches;

i. higher number of away wins in all group matches;

j. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);

k. higher club coefficient (see Annex D)."

sc slayer 07-12-2021 09:23 PM

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Will we get to see Phil Jones play against Young Boys? :p

sc slayer 07-12-2021 09:31 PM

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See whether Rangnick will give promising u23 academy defenders Alvarro Fernandez and Marc Jurado, both signed from Real Madrid and Barcelona a chance onot soon.

Rickey 08-12-2021 09:35 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by imom (Post 20979581)
We can lose 0-10, and we will still be top of Group F.

Villarreal need to win to get level on points with us. The tie-breaker is then the head-to-head points between the two teams. In our two matches with Villarreal, we have 6 points, they have 0. Beat them twice.

Group F basically only 2nd and 3rd place to be decided.

From UEFA documents:

"Article 17 Equality of points – group stage
17.01

If two or more teams are equal on points on completion of the group matches, the following criteria are applied in the order given to determine their rankings:

a. higher number of points obtained in the group matches played among the teams in question;

b. superior goal difference from the group matches played among the teams in question;

c. higher number of goals scored in the group matches played among the teams in question;

d. if, after having applied criteria a) to c), teams still have an equal ranking, criteria a) to c) are reapplied exclusively to the matches between the remaining teams to determine their final rankings. If this procedure does not lead to a decision, criteria e) to k) apply in the order given to the two or more teams still equal;

e. superior goal difference in all group matches;

f. higher number of goals scored in all group matches;

g. higher number of away goals scored in all group matches;

h. higher number of wins in all group matches;

i. higher number of away wins in all group matches;

j. lower disciplinary points total based only on yellow and red cards received by players and team officials in all group matches (red card = 3 points, yellow card = 1 point, expulsion for two yellow cards in one match = 3 points);

k. higher club coefficient (see Annex D)."

Wow imom !...thanks for such a detailed info :)

Rickey 08-12-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sc slayer (Post 20979685)
Will we get to see Phil Jones play against Young Boys? :p

Dunno leh...see wats their decision 1st

Rickey 08-12-2021 09:38 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by sc slayer (Post 20979693)
See whether Rangnick will give promising u23 academy defenders Alvarro Fernandez and Marc Jurado, both signed from Real Madrid and Barcelona a chance onot soon.

Ok, let's see ;)


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