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Clays 28-08-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by karoosel (Post 9595638)
I'm a foreigner (LTVP+) married to a citizen and expecting our first child before the end of the year. We're going to the HDB office in a few days time to inquire, will update you guys on what they will tell us.

I just recently went through the HDB eligibility criteria on their website and this is how I also came to understand what they wrote. Having a citizen child is a big deal for getting eligibility, I think.

do keep us posted on yr progress..and best of luck too.. hope u can have a place u call home.. cheers

shysaint 28-08-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thomko (Post 9591063)
nucleus spore citizen, ltvp, child spore citizen i think eligible to apply bto.

Yes .. I applied my BTO with my SC child who is not born in Singapore, and yes my wife is LTVP+ 3 yrs.

shysaint 28-08-2013 10:51 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karoosel (Post 9595638)
I'm a foreigner (LTVP+) married to a citizen and expecting our first child before the end of the year. We're going to the HDB office in a few days time to inquire, will update you guys on what they will tell us.

I just recently went through the HDB eligibility criteria on their website and this is how I also came to understand what they wrote. Having a citizen child is a big deal for getting eligibility, I think.

Yes .. having a SC child is a BIG Deal for getting eligibility ... Definitely it is in my case when I applied for my BTO.

Another word of advice ... PLEASE make sure your child is born IN Singapore and NOT somewhere else ... Reason if your Child is NOT born in Singapore, he/she CAN only get SC under Descent of the Father and NOT Mother.

Just to share .. I have a Lady Singapore client who married a Aussie, her child borned in Austalia CANNOT becomes a SC by Descend as this clause is Tag to the Father of the Child .. not the Mother.

karoosel 29-08-2013 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shysaint (Post 9597538)
Yes .. having a SC child is a BIG Deal for getting eligibility ... Definitely it is in my case when I applied for my BTO.

Another word of advice ... PLEASE make sure your child is born IN Singapore and NOT somewhere else ... Reason if your Child is NOT born in Singapore, he/she CAN only get SC under Descent of the Father and NOT Mother.

Just to share .. I have a Lady Singapore client who married a Aussie, her child borned in Austalia CANNOT becomes a SC by Descend as this clause is Tag to the Father of the Child .. not the Mother.

I am the female. Although the child can get the citizenship by descent from my husband even if I give birth back in my home country, we just thought that giving birth to the child here is the most straight-forward and convenient in terms of paper work.

This is a good reminder that gender still matters in today's society :rolleyes:

karoosel 29-08-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clays (Post 9597059)
do keep us posted on yr progress..and best of luck too.. hope u can have a place u call home.. cheers

Thanks! We really hope so too :)

karoosel 29-08-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sukhumvit (Post 9596552)
I and my PRC wife married for almost a year already and she on visit pass every time , those 60days type.. About to apply for her LTVP when she was caught yesterday for working in a massage parlor....

Can any kind bros out there advise me on what will happen to me and her ... Depot I think sure but how about me... Tmr I and her need to report to ICA ..

Just blame me that I'm not well enough to provide for her....:(

Yikes.

May I ask why you haven't applied for LTVP/+ right after you got married? 'Almost 1 year' is sort of a longtime to be coming back and forth with a visit pass for your wife..

etsys 29-08-2013 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by karoosel (Post 9599143)
Yikes.

May I ask why you haven't applied for LTVP/+ right after you got married? 'Almost 1 year' is sort of a longtime to be coming back and forth with a visit pass for your wife..

LTVP+ ICA recommends 3 years of marriage, and you cannot demand LVTP+, from what i know .. if you dont' qualify for LTVP + they issue LTVP

Hurricane88 29-08-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sukhumvit (Post 9596552)
Can any kind bros out there advise me on what will happen to me and her ... Depot I think sure but how about me... Tmr I and her need to report to ICA ..

nothing will happen to you as you sinkie men...:)

karoosel 29-08-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by etsys (Post 9599253)
LTVP+ ICA recommends 3 years of marriage, and you cannot demand LVTP+, from what i know .. if you dont' qualify for LTVP + they issue LTVP

Hmm.. Then Sukhumvit's wife would still qualify for LTVP rather than 60days visit pass every time, right?

We applied for LTVP a few days after our wedding. It was approved in 2 weeks. ROM was end March, I got my card for 3 yrs LTVP+ by end April :) ICA was very nice to us all the way, they assisted us so my husband didn't have to pay so much for my extensions every 2 weeks before the scheduled ROM.

Every application is unique so we can't say that ICA is very rigid. They have their set of guidelines and they are quite good in weeding out those with questionable intentions.

Hurricane88 29-08-2013 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by karoosel (Post 9599649)
Hmm.. Then Sukhumvit's wife would still qualify for LTVP rather than 60days visit pass every time, right?

there is plenty of hidden agenda here...which he not sharing with us...so why he didn't apply LTVP in the first place is unknown to us...:p

karoosel 29-08-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 9599666)
there is plenty of hidden agenda here...which he not sharing with us...so why he didn't apply LTVP in the first place is unknown to us...:p

thought so too and precisely why I asked the question :p let's see if he will share more information..

thomko 29-08-2013 01:49 PM

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ltvp plus - to apply work now is easier task, just need to get permission from mom, no levy imposed also.

shysaint 29-08-2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thomko (Post 9600764)
ltvp plus - to apply work now is easier task, just need to get permission from mom, no levy imposed also.

LTVP although troublesome as need to convert to work permit also no need to pay levy ...

shysaint 29-08-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by karoosel (Post 9599103)
I am the female. Although the child can get the citizenship by descent from my husband even if I give birth back in my home country, we just thought that giving birth to the child here is the most straight-forward and convenient in terms of paper work.

This is a good reminder that gender still matters in today's society :rolleyes:

It's not that troublesome if u apply it within a year.

My gal got her sc in less than 2 mths ... N I do the submission in Vietnam.

Bebertov 29-08-2013 11:27 PM

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I see .. Regret .. Full of regrets

ShittyAss 30-08-2013 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by etsys (Post 9599253)
LTVP+ ICA recommends 3 years of marriage, and you cannot demand LVTP+, from what i know .. if you dont' qualify for LTVP + they issue LTVP

Not true bro. As long as spouse did not get caught previously in SG, unlikely they reject LTVP even if just marry one.

If they reject, go straight to ica n Fark them n demand an answer why LTVP was not approve. But u must be very sure spouse didnt kana caught before or got bad records with ica before..

This was what I did previously.

thomko 30-08-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 9604371)
Not true bro. As long as spouse did not get caught previously in SG, unlikely they reject LTVP even if just marry one.

If they reject, go straight to ica n Fark them n demand an answer why LTVP was not approve. ...

bro, thk u for farkin ica, they really deserved it for making lives diff for foreign spouse, when i was visitin in laws in phil, jus show marriage cert n they chop me 1 yr.. so u see, sg ica really loves paperwork so much...

ShittyAss 30-08-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thomko (Post 9606275)
bro, thk u for farkin ica, they really deserved it for making lives diff for foreign spouse, when i was visitin in laws in phil, jus show marriage cert n they chop me 1 yr.. so u see, sg ica really loves paperwork so much...

I told them I marry in SG.. If my wife LTVP reject.. Then m I suppose to divorce her?

My friend is worst. Wife give birth to a baby, n her LTVP was rejected. My friend Fark the ica office also. Say who will take care of the baby? Govt or ica? Baby Singaporean n mother even LTVP also reject.

It's damm stupid one. Then they say technical errors n say will reprocess again.

Always same stupid reason which is technical error.

Soul_Reaper 30-08-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 9604371)
Not true bro. As long as spouse did not get caught previously in SG, unlikely they reject LTVP even if just marry one.

If they reject, go straight to ica n Fark them n demand an answer why LTVP was not approve. But u must be very sure spouse didnt kana caught before or got bad records with ica before..

This was what I did previously.

Be careful when you fark them at ICA..... there have been cases where angry applicants have been arrested there for abusing the ICA officers. Although you no touch them but even using harsh words against them on duty is deemed as "Using abusive language or intimidating behavior against a public official"..... if kenna arrested then 100% can say goodbye to your application.

Real case incident..... my Godma's daughter-in-law kenna put on blacklist for 20 years!! Forever no need to apply for LTVP :mad:

Hurricane88 30-08-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Reaper (Post 9607137)

Real case incident..... my Godma's daughter-in-law kenna put on blacklist for 20 years!! Forever no need to apply for LTVP :mad:

nobody can just keep quiet to let another person abuse...that include a public servant...so please be nice and speak politely...you asking help from MP and if MP reject because request is unreasonable...dare you to scold the MP who may be a Minister...:)

thomko 30-08-2013 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ShittyAss (Post 9606944)

Wife give birth to a baby, n her LTVP was rejected.
Baby Singaporean n mother even LTVP also reject.

.

bro, the new ltvp+ policy is have sporean baby.. most probably as they say process error.

ticktack04 31-08-2013 03:08 AM

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Hi all,

Seems like you guys know your stuffs so some questions to seek all your professional advice. Keep story short

Married 2 month (In taiwan), Kid 1 year old (taiwanese citizen)

Wife, 23, Taiwanese, Canadian PR, Studied nursing in Canada + work as a nurse in Canada for a short time before going back to taiwan. Nvr work in SGP or criminal records anywhere.

Me, 33, Just changed jobs recently (less than 3 months) but annual pay above 100k for the past few years and is a stable salaried employee. No criminal record before but was previously married but of coz divorced properly.

Question : What are the chances for LTVP+ or SPR? I am banking if both fails then LTVP should be ok? If still cannot then get her here on a student pass but baby on what pass?

Thanks all!

ShittyAss 31-08-2013 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Soul_Reaper (Post 9607137)
Be careful when you fark them at ICA..... there have been cases where angry applicants have been arrested there for abusing the ICA officers. Although you no touch them but even using harsh words against them on duty is deemed as "Using abusive language or intimidating behavior against a public official"..... if kenna arrested then 100% can say goodbye to your application.

Real case incident..... my Godma's daughter-in-law kenna put on blacklist for 20 years!! Forever no need to apply for LTVP :mad:

Haha..of cos i didnt use vulgarities or abusively words when i talk to them.

I simply let them know my anger n make them look silly n dumbfold with my questions.

Hurricane88 31-08-2013 08:00 AM

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Should get approved within one application...wife - first LTVP, then within 2 years later PR then maybe 2 years later Citizen...:)

kid - singapore citizen by application...have to give up taiwan citizen when he/she turns 21 yrs old if he/she decides to be Singapore Citizen...son has to serve NS by 18 years old...:)

all bease on info provided below and if certified true...:)

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Originally Posted by ticktack04 (Post 9611202)

Married 2 month (In taiwan), Kid 1 year old (taiwanese citizen)

Wife, 23, Taiwanese, Canadian PR, Studied nursing in Canada + work as a nurse in Canada for a short time before going back to taiwan. Nvr work in SGP or criminal records anywhere.

Me, 33, Just changed jobs recently (less than 3 months) but annual pay above 100k for the past few years and is a stable salaried employee. No criminal record before but was previously married but of coz divorced properly.

Question : What are the chances for LTVP+ or SPR? I am banking if both fails then LTVP should be ok? If still cannot then get her here on a student pass but baby on what pass?

Thanks all!


ticktack04 31-08-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 9611690)
Should get approved within one application...wife - first LTVP, then within 2 years later PR then maybe 2 years later Citizen...:)

kid - singapore citizen by application...have to give up taiwan citizen when he/she turns 21 yrs old if he/she decides to be Singapore Citizen...son has to serve NS by 18 years old...:)

all bease on info provided below and if certified true...:)


Thanks Hurricane...Above info certified true for sure..haha. PR would be great but i am not sure she wants to give up her taiwanese and canadian citizenship (In the process). You know how much taiwanese love their country. I supposed if the wants to stay here before he serve NS, he also have to be on LTVP/PR. Is there a possibility Mum is given LTVP/PR but son is not?

Hurricane88 31-08-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ticktack04 (Post 9612210)
Thanks Hurricane...Above info certified true for sure..haha. PR would be great but i am not sure she wants to give up her taiwanese and canadian citizenship (In the process). You know how much taiwanese love their country. I supposed if the wants to stay here before he serve NS, he also have to be on LTVP/PR. Is there a possibility Mum is given LTVP/PR but son is not?

your son will be singapore citizen by application even as a baby...dun need LTVP/PR the fact that you are Singaporean father...hope you clear...son can have dual citizenship till he does NS and have to forgo the rest if he wants to be Singaporean...:)

just need to go ICA and sort out all these papers...your case is clear cut...just go and get your citizen rights, priorities, and grants...:)

dom01 01-09-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shysaint (Post 9597518)
Yes .. I applied my BTO with my SC child who is not born in Singapore, and yes my wife is LTVP+ 3 yrs.

Hey bro,

Thanks for the info.

I was then still gong gong and waited (about 1 yr) for my wife's pr then. :o Should have just done raw at start n get kid earlier. :D

shysaint 01-09-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dom01 (Post 9620955)
Hey bro,

Thanks for the info.

I was then still gong gong and waited (about 1 yr) for my wife's pr then. :o Should have just done raw at start n get kid earlier. :D

Now got PR also no use .... after obtaining PR still must wait for 3 years :(

Soul_Reaper 02-09-2013 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Hurricane88 (Post 9612344)
your son will be singapore citizen by application even as a baby...dun need LTVP/PR the fact that you are Singaporean father...hope you clear...son can have dual citizenship till he does NS and have to forgo the rest if he wants to be Singaporean...:)

just need to go ICA and sort out all these papers...your case is clear cut...just go and get your citizen rights, priorities, and grants...:)

Dun assume that just because the father is Singaporean the boy will automatically be a Singaporean. If the boy is born outside the country.... he MUST be registered within a certain timeframe with the Singapore Embassy / High Commission or Mission Office to be eligible for Singaporean citizenship..... even then his status is "Citizenship by descent" (born outside SG) which is different from "Citizenship by birth" (born in SG)..... the foreign born boy must take an oath when he reaches 21 whereas a local born boy does not need to do anything.

karoosel 02-09-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by shysaint (Post 9621402)
Now got PR also no use .... after obtaining PR still must wait for 3 years :(

Spoke personally to an HDB officer recently and was told that if you are a citizen and wife just got PR, you do not need to wait for 3 years to apply to purchase flat because you yourself is a citizen. The new rule applies to people who are non-citizens on other types of passes before getting PR :)


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