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lacoruna69 27-11-2024 03:27 PM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose (Post 23912502)

i believe adapting to formations and playing for country boils down to the defensive posn training and drills, should be pretty intensive? because a defender in a back4 has to cover a bigger area than in a back3, so will do some refresher theory lessons and then intensive training (will need a ex-pro footballer bro to share his exp here :p)

Here all couch potatoes and arm chair critics.....:D

ilovepantyhose 27-11-2024 07:29 PM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by lacoruna69 (Post 23912888)
So, SJR do expect certain results to be delivered. I think.
Ending at the bottom half of the table will not go down well with the fans.
This is worst than botak.
I'm not sure Amorim will want to stick to 3-4-3 if it means players having to readjust and results suffered as a result.

yes no doubt SJR want results, it won't happen overnight though. amorim system is like a revolution: cos no more playing back4, wingers dun go wide, wingbacks provide the width instead. i think the goodwill of SJR will last until 25/26 season end, cos they have to see if amorim system can work in PL or not. if SJR provides funds now for amorim to bring in the players he want, and his system fail, man u is stuck with unsuitable players yet again. the way i see it, SJR is shrewd not to give funds yet and see if amorim can mold the current players to his system, if can, then SJR will provide funds to let amorim spend after the probation period

the next critical issue is whether the players are receptive to amorim system or not. like what u said of the aimai attitude, who will come out on top - amorim or player power? what will happen to the players who aren't receptive? will amorim have the full backing of SJR and the football execs to execute his vision? tough decisions to make as they cost the club millions

Rickey 27-11-2024 11:28 PM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose (Post 23914993)
yes no doubt SJR want results, it won't happen overnight though. amorim system is like a revolution: cos no more playing back4, wingers dun go wide, wingbacks provide the width instead. i think the goodwill of SJR will last until 25/26 season end, cos they have to see if amorim system can work in PL or not. if SJR provides funds now for amorim to bring in the players he want, and his system fail, man u is stuck with unsuitable players yet again. the way i see it, SJR is shrewd not to give funds yet and see if amorim can mold the current players to his system, if can, then SJR will provide funds to let amorim spend after the probation period

the next critical issue is whether the players are receptive to amorim system or not. like what u said of the aimai attitude, who will come out on top - amorim or player power? what will happen to the players who aren't receptive? will amorim have the full backing of SJR and the football execs to execute his vision? tough decisions to make as they cost the club millions

SJR has no choice even if he wanted to give Amorim as much time as he needed just like they had been very patient with botak all this while...by right botak shd hv been sacked long time ago but they continue to give him as much time as they could until they couldn't tahan him anymore always drawing or losing his games...

if he continues to give Amorim as much chances as they gave botak then this club will surely be relegated by May next year tgt with Southampton n maybe Leicester, if he can't win any match at all but keep on losing or drawing them like botak did..SJR cannot afford to write off this season as they would be relegated to Div 2 losing all the financial benefits of being a premier league team....n this will definitely be the result if Amorim continue to draw or lose every game they play like botak did....if SJR wanted to write off this season he might as well keep botak until May b4 replacing him with Amorim...less hassle n cheaper too for him

lacoruna69 28-11-2024 01:05 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose (Post 23914993)
if SJR provides funds now for amorim to bring in the players he want,

But even if SJR got the moolah, any transaction will also be under the Financial Regulation commitee.
I think in order to buy, Man U need to sell first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rickey (Post 23915592)
SJR cannot afford to write off this season as they would be relegated to Div 2 losing all the financial benefits of being a premier league team....

SJR is a shrewd businessman.
He already voiced his displeasure on Man U failure to qualify for UCL, thereby missing out on a big chunk of revenue.
I think very likely his target for Amorim is to finish top half of the table this season and at least maintain qualification of Europa next season.
This season win a Cup. Best would be Europa.
Next season, fight to qualify for UCL.
To be frank, I don't think he gives a fark about Amorim needing time to bullt up his 3-4-3 formation and playing style.
This is the target he set for Amorim and Amorim will need to work on it.
Is as simple as that.

SJR (in rage mode) to Amorim: "Why are you talking to me about 3-4-3 , 4-3-3....??!! I'm not interested what method you use, I want you and your team to get us into the UCL by the 2nd season! We have excellent players at your disposal, you mean you cannot fixed them??!!
Then I pay you top dollars for fark??
You want me to kick you back to Portugal??
Or you want a taste of my cigar....just like the bald guy before you...."

Amorim (trembling with fear) : "Ok Boss, I will work on it. No, I have no intention to taste your cigar...." :p

Rickey 28-11-2024 09:40 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by lacoruna69 (Post 23915810)
SJR is a shrewd businessman.
He already voiced his displeasure on Man U failure to qualify for UCL, thereby missing out on a big chunk of revenue.
I think very likely his target for Amorim is to finish top half of the table this season and at least maintain qualification of Europa next season.
This season win a Cup. Best would be Europa.
Next season, fight to qualify for UCL.
To be frank, I don't think he gives a fark about Amorim needing time to bullt up his 3-4-3 formation and playing style.
This is the target he set for Amorim and Amorim will need to work on it.
Is as simple as that.

SJR (in rage mode) to Amorim: "Why are you talking to me about 3-4-3 , 4-3-3....??!! I'm not interested what method you use, I want you and your team to get us into the UCL by the 2nd season! We have excellent players at your disposal, you mean you cannot fixed them??!!
Then I pay you top dollars for fark??
You want me to kick you back to Portugal??
Or you want a taste of my cigar....just like the bald guy before you...."

Amorim (trembling with fear) : "Ok Boss, I will work on it. No, I have no intention to taste your cigar...." :p

So hilarious lacoruna yr fake conversation between SJR n Amorim :):D...agree with wat u said...another easier way back to the European cups is by winning the FA Cup like wat botak did last season

Rickey 28-11-2024 11:36 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
No way u can expect RA to win cups n trophies with this bunch of lazy or average players ..but the irony is they can win 4 matches under RVN on the trot scoring so many goals :eek: ...so that goes to show who they like to play for not whether they r lazy or average players...tiok boh ??

ilovepantyhose 28-11-2024 06:46 PM

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UEL at home vs bodo, amorim should be able to name a strong lineup as more players return from injury. we might be able to see mazraoui shaw as wingbacks on their natural flanks, ugarte mainoo to power the engine in midfield, amad at inside right fw as he continues to impress and amorim might experiment with zirkzee at inside left fw, garnacho rashford to be impact subs

as the squad continues to learn amorim system, likely another draw despite home ground advantage or a slim win

lacoruna69 28-11-2024 10:19 PM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by Rickey (Post 23916785)
No way u can expect RA to win cups n trophies with this bunch of lazy or average players ..but the irony is they can win 4 matches under RVN on the trot scoring so many goals :eek: ...so that goes to show who they like to play for not whether they r lazy or average players...tiok boh ??

RvN prolific goal scoring exploits is for all to see in his 5 seasons with the Red Devils. 150 goals in 219 matches. A record hard to match.
Amorim is just a nobody who has yet to prove himself.
OGS also same. His interim stint also yield many wins bacause who could have forgotten that 1999 UCL Final night in Barcelona?
The super sub "baby assassin"....
Who is Amorim?? He is just 14 years old when OGS bang in the winner.

SJR had made a mistake in underestimating RvN's influence on the players.
He see RvN no up so he get Amorim onboard asap by paying early release fee.
He could have let RvN continue a bit more before deciding.
Anyway, what's done is done.
I really have doubts about Amorim (and his bunch of clowns) after seeing the Ipswich game.
Good Luck to him!

lacoruna69 28-11-2024 10:25 PM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovepantyhose (Post 23917960)
UEL at home vs bodo, amorim should be able to name a strong lineup as more players return from injury. we might be able to see mazraoui shaw as wingbacks on their natural flanks, ugarte mainoo to power the engine in midfield, amad at inside right fw as he continues to impress and amorim might experiment with zirkzee at inside left fw, garnacho rashford to be impact subs

as the squad continues to learn amorim system, likely another draw despite home ground advantage or a slim win

I highly doubt Amorim will drop Bruno as he is the Captain.

To be frank, anything less than a win, the fans will be very edgy.

Will be interesting to see whether Amorim will still stick to 3-4-3.

See you guys at 4am!

lacoruna69 29-11-2024 04:34 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
28th min: Man U 1-2 Bodo

1st minute gift from Bodo GK, Garnacho easy tap in.

Then Bodo score 2 in 5 minutes....commentator says 3-4-3 wingback heavy responsibilty.

lacoruna69 29-11-2024 04:59 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
HT: Man U 2 - 2 Bodo

Hojlund equalised on the stroke of HT. Superb dribbling by Mazraoui to send in the cross, Hojlund excellent first touch with his left foot, then smack in with right foot. Under close supervision by 2 Bodo players.

Onana

Mazraoui-De Ligt-Martinez

Antony-Ugarte-Bruno-Malacia

Mount-Hojlund-Garnacho

lacoruna69 29-11-2024 05:56 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
FT: Man U 3 - 2 Bodo

Hojlund scores again!

Amorim got first win!

Onana makes some crucial saves to secure the victory.

ChrisSutton 29-11-2024 06:13 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
Man United v Everton

Sutton's prediction: 1-1

Rickey 29-11-2024 07:59 AM

Re: Manchester United's Headliners, Articles and Rumours
 
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Originally Posted by lacoruna69 (Post 23919108)
FT: Man U 3 - 2 Bodo

Hojlund scores again!

Amorim got first win!

Onana makes some crucial saves to secure the victory.

Nearly lost the game again but at least showed the fighting spirit to equalise n even win the match :)...RA again made mistake in his selection of his starting XI...shd not hv put in Antony n Malacia who contributed nothing good ..still don't know all his players yet n putting them in to try n see how good or bad they are...can do this by watching the video in which they played or in training mah... luckily they won...shd bin this guy Martinez as he don't seem to be able to defend anymore, heard he was responsible for both goals scored by Bodo...he doesn't seem to be the butcher of Amsterdam anymore

Marmots 29-11-2024 10:03 AM

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I think Amorim's lineup is due to the challenges he faces, he does not even have 3 centre backs to play.
And then there's Everton to play on Sunday.

Having watched the highlights, I wonder if it was Rashford instead of Højlund, he would have chased down the ball and created the chance.

1st Bodø goal was a good one, 2nd Bodø goal was Malacia getting outrunned, and it blasted in between Onana's legs.

Højlund 1st goal had flashes of Cantona and RvN, control to volley, great goal.
His 2nd was just poacher instinct, too bad he could not react fast enough, or could have gotten a hat trick.

It is on the back of this performance, I think we maybe looking at a draw on Sunday.
Bodø is 2nd tier Europe team at best, and we grinded to a 3-2 win.

At least Luke is back, and if we can have another centre back return, we can have a decent back 3 instead of makeshift. And have Mazraoui and Shaw as wingbacks.

Højlund played the full 90 mins, may not get to play on Sunday.
I like him, he has good workrate. Need players like him, Amad and Mazraoui to create an onfield attitude.

I don't think we will have much to look forward to for Jan transfer window, too bad for Amorim.

Hopefully get a win against Everton, at the very least, do not lose.


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