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shysaint 21-06-2012 09:33 AM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tiancai007 (Post 7362677)
Ithere is a question in the arrival card that she need to fill in, something like have u ever been prohibited to enter sg before, she did not fill it, so she was questioned at the checkpoint but she did not understand,

Cannot understand, don't know how to fill up, Better Clarify ... Don't ask and leave it empty and they ask you , they will think you are not truthful so they will bring u in for questioning ..

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Originally Posted by tiancai007 (Post 7362677)
when i saw her being bought away i went up and say i was her bf, the immigration officer wan me to check out and outside first but i say no i wan to stay wit my gf, so we was bought to a corner and a senior officer came and he told me i have to sign something like i am responisble for her stay in sg that she will be staying wit me and she cant break the law or wat.

Very goood that they allows you to do that .. You are very lucky and its good for you ... Nothing to Hide then Nothing to Fear ...

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Originally Posted by tiancai007 (Post 7362677)
i sign and i ask the senior officer what if nxt time she wan to come in sg again and she is alone, he told me that she need to have prove of return ticket and some amount of cash and she can have my name ic and no so if anything happen the immigration can call and check with me. my question is is this really enough?

Whether enough ot not depends on the gal if she have any bad records or laws and etc ...

In General .. what the officer said is true ... this is the Basic Assessing Criteria ..

Standby at least $1k ...

You do not need to indicate your NRIC ... In the Address Portion.. It will be good if she fills in your address .. Then write your contact number after the address ... That will increase her credibility

Normally when u are back with her, you NRIC are recorded behind on her DE Card. That's happen to me all the time when I brought my wife. gf then into Singapore.

Whatever she can provide will increase her credibility into entering Sg BUT no necessary you sure can comes in ...

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Originally Posted by tiancai007 (Post 7362677)
will the immigration really call me if she have problem coming in?.

YES n NO ...

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Originally Posted by tiancai007 (Post 7362677)
and i forgot to ask the officer nxt time she come does she indicate yes or no in the question about her being prohibited to enter sg before.

My suggestion is Don't ask this type of Qn and Get Answer here, BETTER call ICA and clarify this .. NO Joke if wrongly fill up and it would result in Refused Entry and/or a Ban. Don't KPKB here is u follow and result is otherwise ...

tiancai007 21-06-2012 09:57 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
thank you so much

pchai 28-06-2012 09:07 AM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Good latest 1st hand dialoged feedback between senior officer & Bro tiancai007, thanks for the write up & Bro shysaint for valuable point to point clarification, yours times & effort in sharing will certainly help many Bros have better preparation in making wishes come true :)
Thanks You & Good Health

Desmondy 14-07-2012 10:32 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Hi all i have a vietnamese gf for about 3 years . Recently she has been caught by the police and repudiated back to vietnam and ban from coming to singapore for the next 3 years . My question to the bros here that after 3 years will she be able to be removed from the black list and allowed to enter singapore to get married have anyone know or heard anyone that had tried and succeeded . and if i were to appeal against the duration of the ban will it effect the chances of her re entering singapore after the ban is up. btw she was not caught working but just on the streets of gl trying to buy some food .

KangTuo 15-07-2012 09:09 AM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmondy (Post 7469706)
Hi all i have a vietnamese gf for about 3 years . Recently she has been caught by the police and repudiated back to vietnam and ban from coming to singapore for the next 3 years . My question to the bros here that after 3 years will she be able to be removed from the black list and allowed to enter singapore to get married have anyone know or heard anyone that had tried and succeeded . and if i were to appeal against the duration of the ban will it effect the chances of her re entering singapore after the ban is up. btw she was not caught working but just on the streets of gl trying to buy some food .

after 3 years can come back with a gurantor. but will not be removed from blacklist.

still can get married here

no point appealing the duration of the ban. you just have to wait till the ban is lifted.

Hurricane88 15-07-2012 12:09 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Desmondy (Post 7469706)
Hi all i have a vietnamese gf for about 3 years . Recently she has been caught by the police and repudiated back to vietnam and ban from coming to singapore for the next 3 years . My question to the bros here that after 3 years will she be able to be removed from the black list and allowed to enter singapore to get married have anyone know or heard anyone that had tried and succeeded . and if i were to appeal against the duration of the ban will it effect the chances of her re entering singapore after the ban is up. btw she was not caught working but just on the streets of gl trying to buy some food .

repudiated...according to meaning is

1. Refuse to accept or be associated with.
2. Deny the truth or validity of.

think should be repartriated -
Send (someone) back to their own country

in my opinion you are repudiated...:)

stabilo@spore 15-07-2012 10:01 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Hi Bros out there. I faced an issue with ICA recently. My wife (vietnamese) is recently due for an renewal of her long term pass. She was required to undergo medical checkup which includes x-ray at chest. Unfortunately, she is likely to diagnosed with tuberculosis (TB).

Our family doctor referred us to SATA which i did the research online that the cost of treatment is lower there. However, ICA rejected our application and insisted that we did the treatment at TTSH. Currently, she is on one month extension basis and we have to renew her stay every month (need to show prove of treatment at TTSH) at ICA till her treatment is completed 6 month later.

Did any bros here faced this issued with ICA or know the cost of the treatment at TTSH?

Thanks.

Greatking 16-07-2012 02:02 AM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KangTuo (Post 7470898)
after 3 years can come back with a gurantor. but will not be removed from blacklist.

still can get married here

no point appealing the duration of the ban. you just have to wait till the ban is lifted.

She wasn't caught in the act? The ban normally last 6-months and classified as A under the ICA System. Currently, its still an un-written policy. For the 3-years ban, its normally sentence passed down by the Judge? Pardon me if i'm wrong KT-ge :D

but if kanna denied entry. The best way is to apply for re-entry permit. Takes approximately a month.

And do not expect the officer to call you (TS) if she's kanna denied entry. Under the white card, no guarantor name field is provided and even if she comes with a permit, they still do not need to call you because the rights of guarantor only starts after ICA Clearance.

The two possible ways to minimize the risk of U-turn flights. (Only applies to those not working but still scare because they are citizens of these countries which provides lotsa Viet, Filio, China etc)

1. You fly there and back together with her. Anything wrong, you explain to the officer on her behalf. Do not clear ICA first. Even if you are Singaporean, go through the same Queue as foreigners.

2. Schedule Week-days morning flights. If you waited for 1hr and she's not out yet, get the contact number of the ICA Station using the belt number at the counter. Call to find out. If the officer said denied entry, go to HQ ICA to apply before its too late. But if the officer haven't inked the holy stamp onto her passport, explain to the officer the reasons and the officer will meet up with you outside at the arrival hall to clear things out. :D

shysaint 16-07-2012 09:49 AM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
She wasn't caught in the act? The ban normally last 6-months and classified as A under the ICA System. Currently, its still an un-written policy. For the 3-years ban, its normally sentence passed down by the Judge? Pardon me if i'm wrong KT-ge :D

I have cases on 7 months and 1 Year ....

ICA have the Power to Issue 3 Years or more ... Ban you for life ... No need to be Sentence by the Judge. Those who are Suspected List are Barred from Entering SIngapore .. thats even before stepping foot into Singapore ... where got chance to meet the judge ?

MY friend's VB is banned for 1 year without even stepping into Singapore.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
but if kanna denied entry. The best way is to apply for re-entry permit. Takes approximately a month.

Yes .. Possible to do that ... but then if she not banned, I won't recommended to do that ... If you do that, wait kena heart-attack how?

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Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
And do not expect the officer to call you (TS) if she's kanna denied entry. Under the white card, no guarantor name field is provided and even if she comes with a permit, they still do not need to call you because the rights of guarantor only starts after ICA Clearance.

Yes there is NO gaurantor name field nor a box for you to field a reference name and contact.

Normally before the ICA officer ask you ... What you can do is write down your name and contact after you have fill up your address.

If you are in the office, YES, high chance the officer will call and chat with you and ask you questions ... if you amswer wrongly and not up to their expectations ... good luck to your gal.

After they call you .. if they allows your gal to comes out , you HAVE to bring your IC personally and go to the airport to pick up the gal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
The two possible ways to minimize the risk of U-turn flights. (Only applies to those not working but still scare because they are citizens of these countries which provides lotsa Viet, Filio, China etc)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
1. You fly there and back together with her. Anything wrong, you explain to the officer on her behalf. Do not clear ICA first. Even if you are Singaporean, go through the same Queue as foreigners.

FLy back with her is very Good Option ... I cannot deny.

Explain on her behalf .. SOmetimes Yes .. Sometimes NO .. Depends.

Under the terrorists act ... you can deemed suspicious IF you loitered around the counter area and do not clear the area. So If they ask you to clear .. you clear anot ???

They will ask you to clear and wait outside. I kena once so I know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
2. Schedule Week-days morning flights.

I would recommed to comes in on the busiest hours ... more busy fast clearance ... less busy ... more questioning ... more shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
If you waited for 1hr and she's not out yet, get the contact number of the ICA Station using the belt number at the counter. Call to find out.

NO need to call .. approach the officer there and ask him/her ....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
If the officer said denied entry, go to HQ ICA to apply before its too late.

This is the first time I read people recommended this Option ... IMHO .. it is NOT going to work ! ... Read the R&R ... it states .. in summary .. "the frontline ICA Officer have Every SIngle rights to denied your entry if they thinks he/she is NOT fit to enter Singapore "...

IF they allows u to do that .. I think they can change the R&R liao ... no need to empower the front line officer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greatking (Post 7474510)
But if the officer haven't inked the holy stamp onto her passport, explain to the officer the reasons and the officer will meet up with you outside at the arrival hall to clear things out. :D

IF they call you .. well then got chance ... if they dun call u .. u can forget about it ...

Clear things out ??? what things you wanna clear with them ... got nothing to do with u .... she coming in .. not you ....

Blast88 16-07-2012 12:39 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stabilo@spore (Post 7473773)
Hi Bros out there. I faced an issue with ICA recently. My wife (vietnamese) is recently due for an renewal of her long term pass. She was required to undergo medical checkup which includes x-ray at chest. Unfortunately, she is likely to diagnosed with tuberculosis (TB).

Our family doctor referred us to SATA which i did the research online that the cost of treatment is lower there. However, ICA rejected our application and insisted that we did the treatment at TTSH. Currently, she is on one month extension basis and we have to renew her stay every month (need to show prove of treatment at TTSH) at ICA till her treatment is completed 6 month later.

Did any bros here faced this issued with ICA or know the cost of the treatment at TTSH?

Thanks.

SATA supposed to be specialist for treatment of TB, don't understand why ICA insisted for treatment at TTSH:confused: My bx also done her heart check & HIV test at Sata, no problem when submitting to ICA. I believe you are able to use your medisave to cover her treatment cost here since she already your legal wife, wishing your bx a speedy recovery, take care:)

sarenwang 16-07-2012 01:14 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by treymullen (Post 4784674)
Hi guys,

I've been seeing my current girlfriend for about 2 years. She's Thai. I knew her in Thailand, back in 2008. I was travelling there for work quite frequently and got to know her through friends.

in 2009, she was retrenched from her job. with a bit of free time, she started visiting me on a monthly basis. I was aware of the 30 day tourist visa thing so we made arrangements to stay in singapore for 3 weeks, then she'd go back to thailand for a week, then come back again.

Things were fine for about 3 months, then on her fourth visit here, she got questioned at the checkpoint about her frequency of visit, but was subsequently free to come in. It raised concerns, so we took the initiative to go to ICA and enquire about the possible reasons for such 'questioning' at the airport checkpoint.

I was advised by the officer in the interview room that it's normal routine questioning and there should not be much to worry about, as long as she abides by the following rules:

1. That she does not illegally stay past the allowed days stated on her tourist visa
2. That she carries sufficient cash to prove she has sufficient means of living while staying in singapore
3. That she does not engage in any form of illegal activities during her stay in singapore.

Ok, that set our minds at ease, and we continued with our arrangement. On her 6th visit, she was detained at the checkpoint, and deported back to thailand. no reason given, no questions entertained.

I've since written in an appeal for re-entry, and even tried getting a student pass application for her, which were all rejected. Again, no reasons given, and according to ICA, they are not obliged to give any reason for refusing entry to anyone.

She is not a working girl, neither has she gotten into trouble with the law before, either in thailand or in singapore. she also has not come to singapore before she knew me.

Now i am filing for marriage for us and is appealing to ICA again to let her come in.

Have you guys experienced this? hope you can give me some advice what i can do.

thanks in advance

got any advise back to me?

shysaint 16-07-2012 02:52 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
From Thread ICA:
Quote:

Originally Posted by sarenwang (Post 7476089)
got any advise back to me?

From Thread Vietnamese WL:
Quote:

Originally Posted by sarenwang (Post 7476096)
are you sure about that?

From Thread Understanding Vietnames Life Partners
Quote:

Originally Posted by sarenwang (Post 7476086)
are you sure about that?

You trying to clock Post to be out of moderation :confused:


Quote:

Originally Posted by sarenwang (Post 7476089)
got any advise back to me?

What "advise" back to you ... The nick is yours :confused:

YOu are trying to tell us you and this nick are clones :eek:

stabilo@spore 16-07-2012 05:55 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blast88 (Post 7475967)
SATA supposed to be specialist for treatment of TB, don't understand why ICA insisted for treatment at TTSH:confused: My bx also done her heart check & HIV test at Sata, no problem when submitting to ICA. I believe you are able to use your medisave to cover her treatment cost here since she already your legal wife, wishing your bx a speedy recovery, take care:)

Thanks Bro Blast88.

ICA is making thing difficult for commoner like us....

Hurricane88 16-07-2012 07:48 PM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stabilo@spore (Post 7477502)
ICA is making thing difficult for commoner like us....

you should be happy that your bx is receiving good medical care in sinkie...TB is curable and also can spread...sure u dun want to lose her when she is so young...:)

Greatking 17-07-2012 02:21 AM

Re: Issue with ICA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shysaint (Post 7475243)
I have cases on 7 months and 1 Year ....

ICA have the Power to Issue 3 Years or more ... Ban you for life ... No need to be Sentence by the Judge. Those who are Suspected List are Barred from Entering SIngapore .. thats even before stepping foot into Singapore ... where got chance to meet the judge ?

MY friend's VB is banned for 1 year without even stepping into Singapore.



Yes .. Possible to do that ... but then if she not banned, I won't recommended to do that ... If you do that, wait kena heart-attack how?



Yes there is NO gaurantor name field nor a box for you to field a reference name and contact.

Normally before the ICA officer ask you ... What you can do is write down your name and contact after you have fill up your address.

If you are in the office, YES, high chance the officer will call and chat with you and ask you questions ... if you amswer wrongly and not up to their expectations ... good luck to your gal.

After they call you .. if they allows your gal to comes out , you HAVE to bring your IC personally and go to the airport to pick up the gal.





FLy back with her is very Good Option ... I cannot deny.

Explain on her behalf .. SOmetimes Yes .. Sometimes NO .. Depends.

Under the terrorists act ... you can deemed suspicious IF you loitered around the counter area and do not clear the area. So If they ask you to clear .. you clear anot ???

They will ask you to clear and wait outside. I kena once so I know.

I saying "go by normal lane".....

I would recommed to comes in on the busiest hours ... more busy fast clearance ... less busy ... more questioning ... more shit.



NO need to call .. approach the officer there and ask him/her ....



This is the first time I read people recommended this Option ... IMHO .. it is NOT going to work ! ... Read the R&R ... it states .. in summary .. "the frontline ICA Officer have Every SIngle rights to denied your entry if they thinks he/she is NOT fit to enter Singapore "...

IF they allows u to do that .. I think they can change the R&R liao ... no need to empower the front line officer

So the officer played me out by telling me to go HQ to appeal????

IF they call you .. well then got chance ... if they dun call u .. u can forget about it ...

Clear things out ??? what things you wanna clear with them ... got nothing to do with u .... she coming in .. not you .... I think i have better luck. I was on e line (on and off) with the inspector. Or not better luck, he told me they denied entry and its too late. Was told to head down to HQ to appeal. But depends on approval.

Pls read the baove in red :D


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