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Originally Posted by lost99

Respectfully, I think you are misinformed on this matter. Do you know the average wage of these staff is about 1-2 Juta/month? and despite working these jobs they still live in poverty. That amount barely covers their boarding, and only makes ends meet if they eat rice and tofu or cheap foods. Of course if they could find a livable wage they would do so.....but these guys dont' have the same opportunities and privileges we do living in 1st world countries; Indonesia still struggles with massive unemployment and lack of education. Taking any job to make something (even though not enough) is better than nothing. This is why you see so many beggars and traffic people on the streets working for mere coins.

I don't want to keep re-iterating this, but if people are truly bothered by lowly 3rd world minimum wage workers trying to earn a small tip for providing good honest services, then they should go somewhere else, or just suck it up and deal with it; be a selfish asshole or be generous, just don't complain about it and deter others who wish to be generous instead of greedy. I think its fine for them to 'expect' a tip given that they understand it should be earned and not just gifted. Honestly, we are talking at most a few dollars, which is nothing to us, but really helps out the hardworking staff struggling to survive.




*Note my views above only apply to the minimum wage staff who I feel are underpaid, and not to the Dancers who are relatively well paid $15/day + tips for LDs and are encouraged to push/scam customers for LDs and more services. I draw a distinction between lowly minimum wage workers and the Girls/Dancers who are much better compensated (and at times overcompensated) and aware of market effects of overpaying. Personally, when i am in Indonesia i see so much poverty and see the world through a more compassionate eye to realise how lucky i am. I regularly give money to random homeless on the street in Jakarta, and the graditute they show me is a reward in itself.

Hi bro,
I think the minimum in Jakarta is about USD$350 per month.... as far as I know.
Dancer earns from tips and LDs....good money lah....

Cheers.