Bro etsys - thanks for the pagpag explanation.. i really feel sad for the people in Philippines.. i been there numerous times, i really feel pity.. thank god for the blessed life i have here, its a million times much better then them.. the gap between rich and poor is too much, either you are rich or you are poor, there is no in-between, no middle class.
The_lord bro - i will try to find a time to visit angeles again..

if possible, hope to join you guys to have a good time..