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Old 23-06-2024, 01:22 AM
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

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Before booking your flight bro. There are other bros here which they fly to VN/TH/CHN and finally meet the girl then the latter asks for money to pay random bs, sometimes asking for money to provide svs, or to help them on some other things, there are cases where you didnt give anything on day 1 and she'll be gone the next day by giving you shady reasons. Only a chosen few will really meet you because they like you and it all depends on your relationship with her. Make it clear. I hope the best for you.
She want to fly to SG to meet me. Never ask me for money and buy gifts for me. She wants to go steady, mentioned about meet her mum.

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I visited a girl recently who is attached. I asked her why work when attached she said needed money. I asked her whether she let her bf cim she say she donít like but in the shop she has to let me cim and when having sex I even told her to moan louder for me to enjoy thatís the difference in a customer and bf.
Pity her bf, wear such a big green hat.

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Donít ever think you are the only special client. They treat different customers differently too, depending on a lot of factors, like whether you handsome or not? Sometimes if you know how to sweet talk also they will allow you to do things they usually donít allow.
Once you start to invest in time or effort, you start to cross the line, emotion will then follow. It happened to me before, but I was fast enough to cut it off. I just engage other FLs to see if I really like the lady or I just lust for her pretty face and body. Normally it turns out to be just a lust for body. Donít invest your time and emotion in FLs, there are really plenty of FLs in Singapore. Just fuck and go, if you really like her, just engage her more, but donít fall in love, it wonít end well.
Hi bro, can share how to unlock for more? Is it unlock raw?
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Old 23-06-2024, 01:51 AM
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

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Just fuck and go, if you really like her, just engage her more, but donít fall in love, it wonít end well.
Agreed thatís why i avoid rtfing. each time i remind myself itís transactional and she is a whore. i also make her do things a gf wonít do to remind me how degrading she can get (and no itís not raw)
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Old 23-06-2024, 01:55 AM
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

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Pity her bf, wear such a big green hat.
still have her contact and the second session was in my hotel and the things i did to her definitely have not crossed her bf mind
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Old 23-06-2024, 09:15 AM
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She want to fly to SG to meet me. Never ask me for money and buy gifts for me. She wants to go steady, mentioned about meet her mum.


Pity her bf, wear such a big green hat.


Hi bro, can share how to unlock for more? Is it unlock raw?
No, other bros who recommended her said she is highly hygienic, wonít do French kiss and painting, but she is willing to let me do it. So I believe it highly dependent on individuals.
I donít do RAW d, coz for raw, you shoot even faster and have to worry a lot after that, not worth the trouble even if they allow.
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Old 23-06-2024, 09:16 AM
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Agreed thatís why i avoid rtfing. each time i remind myself itís transactional and she is a whore. i also make her do things a gf wonít do to remind me how degrading she can get (and no itís not raw)
Normally I quite respect them, coz they really bring me happiness. RTF is really dangerous, especially you do it on seasoned KTV girls.
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Old 23-06-2024, 12:09 PM
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She want to fly to SG to meet me. Never ask me for money and buy gifts for me. She wants to go steady, mentioned about meet her mum.
Thats a green flag. Thai girls like commitment but they also like to think first, taking things slowly but surely. They also are clingy sometimes, even when having dinner with family theyre always on video call even when I dont understand as they speak their tribal language. Lol
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Old 23-06-2024, 01:30 PM
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

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still have her contact and the second session was in my hotel and the things i did to her definitely have not crossed her bf mind
Did more than CIM? Cuck the bf sure got kick

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No, other bros who recommended her said she is highly hygienic, wonít do French kiss and painting, but she is willing to let me do it. So I believe it highly dependent on individuals.
I donít do RAW d, coz for raw, you shoot even faster and have to worry a lot after that, not worth the trouble even if they allow.
U must be handsome for her to give special treatment

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Thats a green flag. Thai girls like commitment but they also like to think first, taking things slowly but surely. They also are clingy sometimes, even when having dinner with family theyre always on video call even when I dont understand as they speak their tribal language. Lol
Wow bro, you are real siambu expert. It is my first siambu and all 3 points you mentioned are spot on.

She mentioned about meeting mum but also said not so soon, need to talk more first. Bought rings and said in thailand bf/gf also have rings.

Clingy yes, call me every night and I always need to be the one to say time to hang up.

Jealousy/paranoid about me meeting other girls also, probably due to the setting we met.
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Old 23-06-2024, 02:59 PM
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

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Yes, I donít regret also. Coz it is really quite an eye opener for me to see those chio ladies to spread their legs for just a small fraction of my pay.
not only the ladies... the exposure i get, when i meet my so called "guai kia"friends over gathering and share stories they are "the world got so dark??"

so i am glad...
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Old 16-07-2024, 03:15 PM
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

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Bro - I just made this mistake. Ended a 5 month affair with a local FL (well known and 10k+ posts over on FL Dome L).

We did it all - overnights, long weekend staycations at 5 star hotels, multi-day trips flying her first class, jewelry, clothes, bags, etc.

But also constant lies, scamming me for money, creapy voodoo religion, illegal debt collectors, etc.

I got stories if you wanna hear...
Hei bro, can share some of your local FL stories?
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Wow bro, you are real siambu expert. It is my first siambu and all 3 points you mentioned are spot on.

She mentioned about meeting mum but also said not so soon, need to talk more first. Bought rings and said in thailand bf/gf also have rings.

Clingy yes, call me every night and I always need to be the one to say time to hang up.

Jealousy/paranoid about me meeting other girls also, probably due to the setting we met.
So, how's it going?
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Re: Possible to befriend and fall for an FL?

Have 3 story, just to share my first FL story on how I kena gong tao.

She was a Live VJ streamer, 30+yo already but still looks very young and cute like xmm. Came to work awhile because her streaming job company was on a hiatus so no income for her. Actually already had 2 kid with her ex thai husband and i couldn't tell. First red flag was that 2 husband already divorced her but I chose to ignore it. Paid a hefty price of around 20k within 5-6months.

Met in Singapore on her work trip, we hit right off the bat maybe because she spoke very decent english. She video called me everyday since she left. Soon after she went on a work trip to KL, told me business was really bad and she's really stress because need send money back home for mom and kid every week and decided to end her trip early but no money go back. So the white knight in me decided to help her because it's only like 4000thb for a return ticket. Can feel she's really appreciative after she returned.

We planned a 7 day BKK>ChiangMai>BKK trip soon after and she also never asked me for money. She had a customer wanting to book her 2 week which she quoted like 7000thb per day and she told me i no need pay because she like me.

Sex was really good but cannot raw, enjoyed my time with her until the final night where she could not stay the night because of some family issue. Found out later that she actually needed money for her children new school term for books, so went back to work in bar without tell me. Felt bad so i transferred her some money after. I think this was the start of her treating me like an ATM because she knows I am on the hook already.

Long story short...since then, every few days she will have issue with work, family, boss, friend, job opportunity so she doesn't have to work FL again...which all will link back to needing money. I was in the white knight mode because I kena gong tao already. Doing everything she need to make her life better. Her mood will be in a constant extreme up and down swing. So when I send money, I was rewarded by her good mood, when she ran out of money I will feel like I am being tortured because I care for her. Usually it's 5000-10000thb, so i did not feel much at first. The most I transferred at once was for her late's father land debt of 130,000thb so that she could utilize the land to build home as rental for tourist. She had connections with the local head police which were also doing such investment so i thought it was a decent idea. Told me she will return the money after. Well...the money really did went into paying that debt but nothing came into fruition because she quarrel with the only person that had the resources to help build it.

Another was she needed some botox and a nose job for an interview to work in Philippine as a Card dealer. She told me it's the interviewer's requirement to be accepted, not her choice which i had my doubt. I outright refused because i think she looked fine and it's considered non-essential to me. Next thing i know, she got into and accident at her home because wind blew and her front door slammed into her nose which broke it xD. Guess what? Already at hospital with broken nose already. Thailand do have pretty good coverage for healthcare so payment for medical quite ok for thai so paid the bill for her. But nose still broken and abit off, which is considered under cosmetic which their government do not subsidize. Told me this job is really good, which pays a decent 22000thb a week and does not have to be in the FL line again which is what i wanted for us too. Can slowly pay me back the money she borrowed for the land and nose. In the end succumbed and paid for them because I already invested so much. She did get the job and work in Philippine, we still talk when she was there. But when I started to probe on how much she can return me monthly, she ghosted me.

Painful lesson....both heart and my pocket. In chinese, the saying is 高级的猎人往往以猎物的形式出现 Learn to cut your losses, do not put in more money to try and recoup your losses.
Now when I look back, can't help but laugh at my own stupidity.

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