Bro WB, just curious to know for BY. What will be the damage per month base on your past experience. Provide me on the average amount. I go hfj more often and also supported singers. If the BY price is reasonable, why not? Saving for me. hehehe
Sori to chap in...over the years....i have met girls who are willing to be BY part time for 2k to 4k....and full time from 5K to 10K....singers so far...most quote me 10k...we can only share and mark to market accordingly hahah
Bro, how you differentiate between part time and full time BY?
Yes, supporting singers can be very expensive. Have to make the money worth?
Part time means you still allow them to work but cannot be fuck by other men....full time means they don't have to work and have to be at your back and call....
As for supporting singers....this one cannot ask me...I think the 2 most apt persons to ask who are at the epitome of the baoing singer game is bro bybj and ldh...
There are many ways of hanging...some can hang on credit and the singer can be pressurized to be with you... some can hang in intervals so the singer would have to continue her efforts in maintaining your support....singers have fixed hours usually between 9 to 2am...so 6 to 9 can be fucking hours if you don't buy her singing hours....alternatively just pay 800 if you wan to bring her out at night....some singers are definitely worth it and have star quality but you would need deep pockets if you want to compete with other powerful bros who have the same intention as you...if the singers cmi...well what's the point...i rather get a normal girl of higher quality...as chairman mao said...it doesn't matter if the pussy can sing or not...as long as it is a good pussy!
Sori to chap in...over the years....i have met girls who are willing to be BY part time for 2k to 4k....and full time from 5K to 10K....singers so far...most quote me 10k...we can only share and mark to market accordingly hahah
Just to share info, my info aligns with ME's, though for part-time for a reasonably popular girl from DC and up KTVs the minimum is more like 3k, 2k perhaps for the mid-tier places like Dong Men. The 8-10k mark for KTV girls is for the especially SYT or very popular, most of these don't chujie (or probably rarely, if price high enough probab;u will), holding out for the BY. There was one LV woman I was considering, and while we did not negotiate, my sense from her talking of BY'd friends is the 8+ range, she would certainly have been in the + range because she was very hard to book, always had customers booking days in advance.
For singers I only BY'd one and never negotiated. She still worked every nite unless I bought her times, and I gave around 4k. I had thought full-time for singers was a lot more, and that you have to negotiate with the boss. I was told for one BY'd at Xianzi it was around 15-20/mo all-in, though not confirmed and not precise (range came from another singer who already had a boyfriend and so knew I was not speaking about her, so presume info is somewhat reliable)
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Dear Bro WB,
But they are becoming closer and closer to be qualified as MILF, but as an old man, doing-it out with a young girl does not make me feel right!
Ha ha, I remember reading your informative posts before I even joined SBF, I guess your partial retirement explains why i haven't noticed them in a while, but your reasons are good for you! While I am not yet a grandfather, I have similar views in that the girls I tend to go with are older. I remain tempted by the 20y.o., but my experience of having them as girlfriends has not been so good, so I find I usually have BYs for FBs who are mid-20s, chat with them much much better
You are also a very experienced person in dealing with the PRC ladies, judging from what you have written in the forum. Although I am old and do not go into KC again, it would certainly be my pleasure to learn from you. At the same time, I am more than willing to share my humble experience, especially in failure with you......In brief, Bao-Ying is a dangerous game if one puts in too much KC, unless you have Ding-Li (ability in controlling oneself)or sad consequence will be something to be expected. Just like what you said correctly "Controlled".
PM you when I am back next week.
Hi Bro PuTonRen,
Although I'm a fellow ah pek, I'm a newbie as I first stepped inside a KTV n met my 1st BAO-ee in Sep of 08 n I consummated my BY w/ her in late May the following yr. It took me 8 months to bed her!
I look forward to meeting u!
Cheers!
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Bro WB, just curious to know for BY. What will be the damage per month base on your past experience. Provide me on the average amount. I go hfj more often and also supported singers. If the BY price is reasonable, why not? Saving for me. hehehe
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Originally Posted by MoralEpitome
Sori to chap in...over the years....i have met girls who are willing to be BY part time for 2k to 4k....and full time from 5K to 10K....singers so far...most quote me 10k...we can only share and mark to market accordingly hahah
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Originally Posted by MoralEpitome
Part time means you still allow them to work but cannot be fuck by other men....full time means they don't have to work and have to be at your back and call....
As for supporting singers....this one cannot ask me...I think the 2 most apt persons to ask who are at the epitome of the baoing singer game is bro bybj and ldh............................................... ........
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Just to share info, my info aligns with ME's, though for part-time for a reasonably popular girl from DC and up KTVs the minimum is more like 3k, 2k perhaps for the mid-tier places like Dong Men. The 8-10k mark for KTV girls is for the especially SYT or very popular, most of these don't chujie (or probably rarely, if price high enough probab;u will), holding out for the BY. There was one LV woman I was considering, and while we did not negotiate, my sense from her talking of BY'd friends is the 8+ range, she would certainly have been in the + range because she was very hard to book, always had customers booking days in advance.
For singers I only BY'd one and never negotiated. She still worked every nite unless I bought her times, and I gave around 4k. I had thought full-time for singers was a lot more, and that you have to negotiate with the boss. I was told for one BY'd at Xianzi it was around 15-20/mo all-in, though not confirmed and not precise (range came from another singer who already had a boyfriend and so knew I was not speaking about her, so presume info is somewhat reliable)
Ha ha, I remember reading your informative posts before I even joined SBF, I guess your partial retirement explains why i haven't noticed them in a while, but your reasons are good for you! While I am not yet a grandfather, I have similar views in that the girls I tend to go with are older. I remain tempted by the 20y.o., but my experience of having them as girlfriends has not been so good.............................
Enjoy your times in TAM!
Bros cx75, ME n roamersg,
In my experience, damage for BY-ing KTV gals part-time is in the range of $4-6k n full time 7-12K per month. Some very popular SYTs may demand 15k n up. One SH gal wanted 20K...but she was a virgin!
Every thing being equal, I still prefer SYTs of my particular type...
But as I hv alluded to before, it takes me several outings to find a gal who is mildly interesting..wat to do?
Perhaps partly due to my bias n partly due to Rashomon Effect, I hv never been satisfied w/ the gals intro by mummies specifically for BY. And I hv never BY-ed a gal brought to the rooms by mummies. Over 90% of my BAO-ees were discovered by me while roaming outside the rooms or near the lifts, hahaha.
For example, a few wks ago, a mummy at LV brought a gal to sit w/ me. My young fren said, wow! She is a rare gem! She was 20, very pretty w/ fair skin n shapely body, abt 167 n 52 kg. She said she had turned down many offers for BY. But I hv zero interest in her. I dun even want ST. Why? She has rather thick/muscular legs n thighs of an experienced dancer!
For example, a few wks ago, a mummy at LV brought a gal to sit w/ me. My young fren said, wow! She is a rare gem! She was 20, very pretty w/ fair skin n shapely body, abt 167 n 52 kg. She said she had turned down many offers for BY. But I hv zero interest in her. I dun even want ST. Why? She has rather thick/muscular legs n thighs of an experienced dancer!
Cheers!
Bro WB
One man's meat is often another man's poison...hehe...but these women have it good....i was just reading on the average salary of professionals in Singapore....a 35 guy probably earns about 5k a mth...and these BYees earn 10K a month!...although which is harder work....debatable...haha
I hv never been satisfied w/ the gals intro by mummies specifically for BY. And I hv never BY-ed a gal brought to the rooms by mummies. Over 90% of my BAO-ees were discovered by me while roaming outside the rooms or near the lifts, hahaha.
Bro WB
Hi bro WB, can’t help noticing your statement on not being satisfied with gals introduced by mummies. These reaction and behaviour reflect many in the chiong world. Quite often, one hardly readily accepts or is satisfied with an easy delivery of “prey”.
Similalry, I would never totally happy with the gals brought to me by my regular mummies; regardless of how gorgeous and sexy they are. Inside me I constantly feel that there are better ones available, somewhere, somehow. It is a strange response, I know. In many instances, my buddies were astonished by my rejection on the gal because they felt she was just perfect. The feeling of someone else is better is always present. “别人比较好” – sounds familiar?
Your reasoning focuses on the statistics of bao-ees whom you secured from outside the rooms or lift lobbies versus mummies’. However, not on specific physical or behavioral attributes of the bao-ees. Just imagine for a second that your current bao-ee was actually the one that mummy intended to introduce to you before you bumped into her at the lift lobby. Would the statistic change?
Cheers! See you around soon.
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Thanks to Bro WB, ME and roamersg for your contribution.
The BY price is not cheap, not many of us can afford 8 - 10K per mth just to BY a SYT. Most singaporean don't even earn that kind of salary. Imagine after being 'bao', she still eats behind your back or you need to have closed lookout on her to prevent her cheating on you. This is another stress.
I believe there are some good ones out there, dont need to go to those up-KTV to look for SYT to BY. Their price is extremely high. In hfj, most of the joints, the monthly target is ard 6 to 7K. Just top up the different, the singer will stick to you. If you are lucky, 3K to 4K can make her yours but whether she does anything behind you all depend on trust which cannot be guaranteed. End of the day, you get what you want at a lower cost.
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In my experience, damage for BY-ing KTV gals part-time is in the range of $4-6k n full time 7-12K per month. Some very popular SYTs may demand 15k n up. One SH gal wanted 20K...but she was a virgin!
I'm not surprised you've found higher ranges, as you describe your standards being so high they would be more expensive! I think we like similar physical types, though you are much more specific, and I suspect less flexible than I. But the biggest difference is that I tend to steer away from the youngest simply due to issues of clicking, and hence I think the ones I target are less expensive.
This might change as there's another Dongbei who plans to return to sillypore who was very much in demand at LV. She's also younger than I usually pursue, 21, and has the personality downsides to that younger age that i often encounter, but she's much closer to my physical ideal, and more importantly, we clicked well at times ... other times less so.
What I've tried to do more recently is when I click very well with a girl but she's not my physical ideal, to see if I can arrange more of a F-Buddy relnship, with many meals and so forth so it has much of the GFE without the downsides. This worked (reluctantly on her part) with one. I proposed this again recently but was turned down, told if I want to taste the meat I must BY first.
Thanks to Bro WB, ME and roamersg for your contribution.
The BY price is not cheap, not many of us can afford 8 - 10K per mth just to BY a SYT. Most singaporean don't even earn that kind of salary. Imagine after being 'bao', she still eats behind your back or you need to have closed lookout on her to prevent her cheating on you. This is another stress.
I believe there are some good ones out there, dont need to go to those up-KTV to look for SYT to BY. Their price is extremely high. In hfj, most of the joints, the monthly target is ard 6 to 7K. Just top up the different, the singer will stick to you. If you are lucky, 3K to 4K can make her yours but whether she does anything behind you all depend on trust which cannot be guaranteed. End of the day, you get what you want at a lower cost.
I think it's best not to give one shot...give weekly or fortnightly...keep her on her toes...give if she makes you happy...and cut her off if she fucked ard with you...I have seen so many of their tricks and how some more inexperience bros fall for it...for me it's simple....i would pay for the efforts and emotions or feelings put in...but it's not in black and white...I give what I feel it's worth...so i live life with consciene...dun owe others and dun owe yourself...but i think the TAM girls usually expect more...usually they would quote much more even if just transact...
One man's meat is often another man's poison...hehe...but these women have it good....i was just reading on the average salary of professionals in Singapore....a 35 guy probably earns about 5k a mth...and these BYees earn 10K a month!...although which is harder work....debatable...haha
Yes, 10K SGD or 49.2 K RMB a month is big buck for these young ladies. It's abt 20K RMB a month to BY an attractive SYT in most cities in PRC.
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Originally Posted by marc5
Hi bro WB, can’t help noticing your statement on not being satisfied with gals introduced by mummies.....one hardly readily accepts or is satisfied with an easy delivery of “prey”.
Similalry, I would never totally happy with the gals brought to me by my regular mummies; regardless of how gorgeous and sexy they are. Inside me I constantly feel that there are better ones available, somewhere, somehow. It is a strange response..............The feeling of someone else is better is always present. “别人比较好” – sounds familiar?
Your reasoning focuses on the statistics of bao-ees whom you secured from outside the rooms or lift lobbies versus mummies’. However, not on specific physical or behavioral attributes of the bao-ees. Just imagine for a second that your current bao-ee was actually the one that mummy intended to introduce to you before you bumped into her at the lift lobby. Would the statistic change?.......................
Hi Bro Marc5,
The problem is that all female mummies dun fully understand the type of gal I like. However, some bros hv recommended gals to me n abt a third of them hv turned out to be my type.
Yes, the stats may change a little bit if my current BAO-ee was the very same one that the mummy was going to intro, haha.
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Originally Posted by cx75
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I believe there are some good ones out there, dont need to go to those up-KTV to look for SYT to BY. Their price is extremely high. In hfj, most of the joints, the monthly target is ard 6 to 7K. Just top up the different, the singer will stick to you. If you are lucky, 3K to 4K can make her yours....................
For 3 to 4K a month u get to eat her pussy n she is yours all right, but is she exclusively yours?
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Originally Posted by roamersg
I'm not surprised you've found higher ranges, as you describe your standards being so high they would be more expensive! I think we like similar physical types, though you are much more specific, and I suspect less flexible than I. But the biggest difference is that I tend to steer away from the youngest simply due to issues of clicking, and hence I think the ones I target are less expensive.
This might change as there's another Dongbei who plans to return to sillypore who was very much in demand at LV. She's also younger than I usually pursue, 21..........more importantly, we clicked well at times ... other times less so.
What I've tried to do more recently is when I click very well with a girl but she's not my physical ideal, to see if I can arrange more of a F-Buddy relnship, with many meals and so forth so it has much of the GFE without the downsides. This worked (reluctantly on her part) with one. I proposed this again recently but was turned down, told if I want to taste the meat I must BY first.
Actually my standards r not high, they r merely quirky n more specific. I often end up paying more bcos it's hard to find my particular type. It takes several outings just to find one gal whose outward appearance is mildly interesting. If she is really my type, I'll make an offer ASAP. But I may be disappointed when she is stark naked...
08-07-2010, 02:16 PM
Re: Tian An Men KTV
