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Old 12-05-2011, 12:07 PM
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I'm fine too... Busy earning for gold to spend time with bro... Haha.. So u going LV HH this week?
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Brother WB,

You are a towkay lah! I know your ability in dealing with SYT, haha!

Unlike this old and semi-retired man, still stuck in Europe now. I am glad to learn that you are back to Singapore scene. Will look you up when I am back next week.
Hi Bro PTR,

Hv fun in Europe!

Pls sms me.

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HAHA yes yes, me tycoon, me multi billion HAIR lolzzzzz
Yes, active again, just spent the nite wif my latest toy at a 5star walking distance from TAM next to the river or canal haha
Yes, Mr. Tycoon. I know which hotel, haha.

Better idea: Get a nice flat or a t least a master bedroom n bring ur toys there, haha.

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Hi Bro PTR,

Hv fun in Europe!

Pls sms me.


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Thanks Bro WB, I will SMS you. I would have fun here in Europe.

Haha! believe e or not? I had a China Dong Bei girl in Europe last night! Not a SYT but certainly with great assets at the chest. The price is not so different from an outcall from our KTV girls back homme. Tried to negotiate wth a East European girl, tall and with good body, but failed because she was asking for exorbitant price. Sigh...

It is now 7.00 am in the morning. Need to go and prepare to go to work already. It is pretty hot here.

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Old 14-05-2011, 12:00 PM
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Thanks Bro WB, I will SMS you. I would have fun here in Europe.

Haha! believe e or not? I had a China Dong Bei girl in Europe last night! Not a SYT but certainly with great assets at the chest. The price is not so different from an outcall from our KTV girls back homme. Tried to negotiate wth a East European girl, tall and with good body, but failed because she was asking for exorbitant price. Sigh...

It is now 7.00 am in the morning. Need to go and prepare to go to work already. It is pretty hot here.

See you next week.
Bro PTR,

Hope to see u soon.

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Dear Mr. Chairman aka Mr.Tycoon,

How hv u been?

Me towkay? No no, just a lao chi ko pek w/ a little dumb luck, hehe.

Officially Retired From Retirement? I guess that you're active again!

Cheers!

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The quality of SYTs at Talma/L8 3 yrs ago could rival the best at TAM/LV. The service was bad but could be much improved if u booked them for 2-3 sessions.

Never been to Hilltop n Century. Will take a look.

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Hi bro cablesnwires,

Ths bro, long time no see.

I believe we last met at DC SH on 10 Oct, 2009, a Sat. I was w/ my full-blooded Manzhou Bao-ee n you were telling me abt ur exploits w/ a PRC gal n that u might be falling in love...

I hv called u a few times. Are u back in action now?

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Haha! believe e or not? I had a China Dong Bei girl in Europe last night! Not a SYT but certainly with great assets at the chest. The price is not so different from an outcall from our KTV girls back homme. Tried to negotiate wth a East European girl, tall and with good body, but failed because she was asking for exorbitant price. Sigh...
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It has been a long time since we met. Ah Yeo is very good in FA, I only have limited experiene in GA.

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Old 23-05-2011, 10:27 AM
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Good morning!

What has happened to the famed TAM n LV? The quality of gals is so-so at best.

Some bros want to go LV sh tomorrow. I'll join them.

Bro PTR, can u make it?

I always like to see a big crowd, in fact the more the merrier. Any bros interested, just PM me w/ ur HP.

One dear bro just texted me re 皇亭一号 at Jalan Sultan. He was there at midnight Sat n saw quite a lot of chio gals who arrived less than a month ago, hmmmm...will get some bros to go w/ him later in the wk.

BTW, many chio n educated SYTs will not come to SG, unless they know u personally AND u promise to BY them for at least twice what u hv been paying them in China. And of course u pay all travel, visa n living expenses...

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What has happened to the famed TAM n LV? The quality of gals is so-so at best.



Bro WB


Totally agreed on it... From year start 2011 , tot is the CNY effect but till now May, the quality hasnt improved much although i muz admit i'm a sucker for looks.... Furthermore the attitude of these gals r getting from bad to worse.... There might be several factors contributing to it...

Overpaid by customer - last time was 150 for sh booking , then 200.... now the gals r asking 300 or even 500 for pure booking.... ridiculous man... i believe TAM goers can well afford the mere 500 but think back is it worth it ?? Understand tat it is very subjective but IMO, wat they do more than average hardworking person who might work all day , maybe 12 hrs a day to justify for this kind of money earned... they simply dun appreciate tat they have in fact been overpaid... ( Refer to my true experience recently at China below )
Conclusion : Hopefully all customer can pay a uniform price on booking... gifts or other incestive is all optional thereafter but make booking a standard price

Overprotective of these gals by mummy - Make a SH booking for a gal and an hr later , she says that she have a regular customer and need to butterfly. she say she doesnt want to make excuses eg. going to toilet or wat nonsense like other gals. I thank her for her frankness and offered her 20min to say hi to her customer but she doesnt even want.... she strictly demanded double table, then wtf is my booking for ??? She say is the norm nowadays for gals to have a booking and a butterfly... Chat wif a few regular mummy and they say they cant really do much abt it in some way coz gals r their money generating tool... YES, they can insisted them to come back and sit but with the unhappy faces on the gal, wat's the point.... i understand their stand as a mummy.
Conclusion : Well, if the mummy cant do much, shouldnt we as customer boycott all these gals then and let them know we call the shots definitely not them !!! Or perhaps the management can do something abt it. Make them learn the basic duty of a ktv gal in TAM complex. Honour their contract ( booking ) till the customer leaves the ktv, isit it service we should be getting ???

Now to the final point why i decide to pen down this post.... was at china and when to a massage cum manicure shop.... wow lucky day seemingly... manage to choose a quality gal... give her a gd 8.5 for looks, slim , fair and her sweet tweety bird voice - can definitely easily be top 5 in whole TAM complex... As usual start chatting with her while massaging... She gt to know i'm from SG and told her im here for work... Then she popped a stunning question halfway thru the massage.... ( Sorry is a clean joint so guys dun tink of juicy fr :P )

XY : Then u muz know abt TAM then...
Me: stunned, turned around and take a second look at her, double confirm i nv see her b4 coz she is quite a beauty, wouldnt have forgotten if i seen her. Told her heard abt it but nv go b4... that is a ktv where only rich pp can afford not me...
XY : Lucky u r nt those who go this type of place....
Me : y lucky? wat's wrong with that place ?
XY : That place is for 傻bee(stupid fools) to spend money de...
Me : (Shocked n curious) u work there b4 ?
XY : I nv even been to SG b4 how to work there...
Me : then y u say that ??
XY : heard from all my frends in PRC( working at ktv and non ktv like sales or hairdresser or beauty lines )
Me : (Jokingly) aiya yr frend anyhow say 1 lah, i live in SG oso nv hear pp say that b4 ( but in my head somehow i feel abit ashamed at that point, dont want her to know i might be 1 of those 傻bee she referring to ) or u anyhow make up 1 ?? (Teasing her )
XY : No i dun tell lies de. To be more exact my cousin work there b4. She told me going to work at TAM is juz like going to party at Kbox equalivent in SG. Can drink , can sing and get highly paid those傻bee or 老头子 . Gt 1 customer tat time wanna woo my cousin, then buy her lots of gift.
Me : Wah so gd ah !!!
XY : No lah he wanna have "that" only lah
Me : wat is "that" ?
XY : ( Stared at mi )
Me : (quickly) oh i tink is sex rite?
XY : Ya lah, my cousin after buying the gift juz change her hp no. without even going hotel wif him, nothing the customer can do to her oso.... SG is protected by police, unlike HK or Taiwan my cousin dun dare to use this stunt....
Me : WTF !! yr cousin is quite street smart hor....( Hopefully does this incident doesnt happen to any bro here )
XY : Most importantly, dont need to go hotel wif them unlike here in PRC whereby they compulsory need to go ( upon verify by bro coz i not sure abt the PRC ktv scene ). That expain y i work in massage shop and not ktv.
Me : Cannot dont go meh ?
XY : Cannot , will be fine or condemn by mummy ( upon verify by bro here too )
Me : then go SG work loh
XY : If i gt money to get agent and expenses, might consider party there...
Me : Party ???
XY : Ya , gal( PRC) dont say go work at ktv in SG as work, unlike Hongkong or taiwan where sex is very much linked .... they say go party becoz it is so relaxing and get paid by 傻bee
Me : ( in my mind - WTH , dis angelic face is slowly but surely boiling my blood by 傻bee here 傻bee there.... Somehow makes mi feel so stupid at that very moment, in other hand, gd to know wat they have been labelling us as )
i juz smile at her but of course very fake lah ...
XY : Do u haf any friend working as agent to intro ? Maybe cheaper price ?
Me : No, i dun haf this kind of ctc ( i did haf frend but no way i going to help another bitch who label SG TAM goers as 傻bee) , but if i got i call u ok... ( Juz to exchange ctc for hoonging :P )
XY : ok



** Conversation in chinese , translated to english, not word for word but the main point in there without adding any salt or vinegar....

Conclusion : If to these PRC gals who havent even been to SG , whereby the merlion nor the 2 IRs r our trademark but the famed TAM as money digging ground is, then something is very wrong. If they use word such as generous i'll gladly accept but not the word 傻bee. FYI, they're quite serious abt it as in treating us as fools not those joking manner, tat's y i see the need to post here. The perception of us SG guys as rich but dumb is drilled hard into their brain.

Hopefully TAM goers can seriously review the money paid to these gal... Using minimum money for maximum gain on them isnt it our top priority for visiting ktv ?? correct mi if i m wrong.... As for mi, i always adopt "i choose who to fuck , not the gal choose mi" attitude...Lastly i'm not here to flame TAM complex( playground for almost 3 yrs, and the highest chance to find a quality PRC gal in my opinion even till now), but juz sharing my honest feedback wif fellow TAM goers, thanks....
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Totally agreed on it... From year start 2011 , tot is the CNY effect but till now May, the quality hasnt improved much although i muz admit i'm a sucker for looks.... Furthermore the attitude of these gals r getting from bad to worse.... There might be several factors contributing to it...

Overpaid by customer - last time was 150 for sh booking , then 200.... now the gals r asking 300 or even 500 for pure booking.... ridiculous man... i believe TAM goers can well afford the mere 500 but think back is it worth it ?? Understand tat it is very subjective but IMO, wat they do more than average hardworking person who might work all day , maybe 12 hrs a day to justify for this kind of money earned... they simply dun appreciate tat they have in fact been overpaid... ( Refer to my true experience recently at China below )
Conclusion : Hopefully all customer can pay a uniform price on booking... gifts or other incestive is all optional thereafter but make booking a standard price


Hopefully TAM goers can seriously review the money paid to these gal... Using minimum money for maximum gain on them isnt it our top priority for visiting ktv ?? correct mi if i m wrong.... As for mi, i always adopt "i choose who to fuck , not the gal choose mi" attitude...Lastly i'm not here to flame TAM complex( playground for almost 3 yrs, and the highest chance to find a quality PRC gal in my opinion even till now), but juz sharing my honest feedback wif fellow TAM goers, thanks....
Dear All,

I used to go TAM with my friends at least once a week, but stopped going there for about a year already. I agree totally to what Bro rubbertime had said on the current situation in TAM. First they raised the price of the liquor (although reduced lately) and the girl sitting with you for the whole night during Happy Hour is tipped $150 compared to $100 before (But booking is different rate). I am pissed off by the possible booking + butterfly scheme of a girl , then what is the point of paying for booking.

I tend to agree to Bro rubbertime that we overpay the girls, and we tend to shower them with gifts. However, I do not think Singaporeans are stupid, but we are soft hearted. We should learn from the people from Taiwan and Hong Kong. Let me tell you how a taxi driver can tell whether a passenger is from Singapore, Taiwan or Hong Kong in China.

Let say the taxi faire is 18 RMB If the passenger is from Taiwan, he would argue with the driver over the fare and refuse to pay, if the passenger is from Hong Kong, he would pay the fare but would lodge a complaint. If the passenger is from Singapore, he would give the driver 20 RMB and ask him to keep the change. Sigh.....

What Brother rubbertime had related in his post on the conversation with the girl from the massage joint could well be true. Many girls, either in HC, KTV, or bars whom I met in China mentioned about TAM and Lido in Singapore. They did not talk about Singarporeans being stupid and willingly conned by the girls in TAM or Lido, but they did give me an idea that they do know about these two places and it is easy to make money in Singapore.

I have just returned from a KTV in Selegie area, one girl who sat with me 2 to 3 times has asked me just now whether I could pay for her rent if she moves to a room where she could be alone. Of course you can guess that my answer is NO. She had probably asked many other customers. It is good money, if let say the rent is $1,000 a month, and if she was succcessful in getting 3 guys to pay for her rent, she would have earned $2000 extra a month. She told me that many of her friends in Singapore are staying alone in room which is paid by their Singapore "boy friend".

Coming back to TAM, I think we should speak to the management over the many unhappiness that we have.

A friend of mine told me that when a joint in the Selegi area wanted to raised the tips during HH for a girl without butterfly from $100 to $150, he asked the mummy to choose 3 girls for him and he would allow them to butterfly with $50 tips each.

My 2 cent worth.
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A friend of mine told me that when a joint in the Selegi area wanted to raised the tips during HH for a girl without butterfly from $100 to $150, he asked the mummy to choose 3 girls for him and he would allow them to butterfly with $50 tips each.
That is why the butterfly system works and is common nowadays. 15 years ago, no such word as "butterfly".

But 15 years ago, "live firing" was done in the room and no need book hotel. So since nowadys, we have to go out, might as well see more stock and choose.
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Totally agreed on it... From year start 2011 , tot is the CNY effect but till now May, the quality hasnt improved much although i muz admit i'm a sucker for looks.... Furthermore the attitude of these gals r getting from bad to worse.... There might be several factors contributing to it...

Overpaid by customer................
Conclusion : Hopefully all customer can pay a uniform price on booking... gifts or other incestive is all optional thereafter but make booking a standard price

Overprotective of these gals by mummy ...........
Conclusion : Well, if the mummy cant do much, shouldnt we as customer boycott all these gals then and let them know we call the shots definitely not them !!! Or perhaps the management can do something abt it. Make them learn the basic duty of a ktv gal in TAM complex. Honour their contract ( booking ) till the customer leaves the ktv, isit it service we should be getting ???

Now to the final point why i decide to pen down this post.... was at china and when to a massage cum manicure shop.... ( Sorry is a clean joint so guys dun tink of juicy fr )

.....................
XY : If i gt money to get agent and expenses, might consider party there...
Me : Party ???
XY : Ya , gal( PRC) dont say go work at ktv in SG as work, unlike Hongkong or taiwan where sex is very much linked .... they say go party becoz it is so relaxing and get paid by 傻bee
Me : ( in my mind - WTH , dis angelic face is slowly but surely boiling my blood by 傻bee here 傻bee there.... Somehow makes mi feel so stupid at that very moment, in other hand, gd to know wat they have been labelling us as )........................

** Conversation in chinese , translated to english, not word for word but the main point in there without adding any salt or vinegar....

Conclusion : If to these PRC gals who havent even been to SG , whereby the merlion nor the 2 IRs r our trademark but the famed TAM as money digging ground is, then something is very wrong. If they use word such as generous i'll gladly accept but not the word 傻bee................ money paid to these gal... Using minimum money for maximum gain on them isnt it our top priority for visiting ktv ??..........but juz sharing my honest feedback wif fellow TAM goers, thanks....
Hi bro rubbertime,

Wow!

Very detailed n insightful discourse on what is wrong w/ the famed n fabled TAM. Ditto for LV.

Now we r paying more for much lower quality gals.

Three main factors:

1) SG men r mostly too decent n too soft-hearted.

2) The supply of chio PRC gals is greatly curtailed by the increasingly tougher n tougher standards for various visa to enter SG.

3) Many PRC men r getting richer n richer so that many very chio n educated gals prefer to stay in China to be BY-ed.

TAM is like a magic joint ( or paradise?) for these PRC whores. A $80 gal is suddenly transformed into a $200-$500 gal once she steps inside the joint.

More than 2 yrs ago, I knew several PRC whores who used to charge $80-120 for ST, but when u met them at TAM, they were asking $200 n up for ST. I upped a 20 yo singer for $80 several times in 2008 n I received a call from her in May 2009 n she was then a "singer" at TAM. She wanted to meet me for ST. She was asking $500!!! I finally upped her for $200.

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Dear All,

I used to go TAM with my friends at least once a week, but stopped going there for about a year already. I agree totally to what Bro rubbertime had said on the current situation in TAM.....

I tend to agree to Bro rubbertime that we overpay the girls, and we tend to shower them with gifts. However, I do not think Singaporeans are stupid, but we are soft hearted. We should learn from the people from Taiwan and Hong Kong...............

What Brother rubbertime had related in his post on the conversation with the girl from the massage joint could well be true. Many girls, either in HC, KTV, or bars whom I met in China mentioned about TAM and Lido in Singapore....

Coming back to TAM, I think we should speak to the management over the many unhappiness that we have.................
Hi Bro PTR,

I couldn't agree w/ u more.

The same applies to LV...

An honest LV mummy told me 2 days ago that there r very few quality gals of my type for ST or BY.

Wat to do? I hv to import SYTs of my type directly from China. But the process is complicated...n many really great ones wont come. They only want to be kept in China.

Cheers!

Bro WB
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I tend to agree to Bro rubbertime that we overpay the girls, and we tend to shower them with gifts. However, I do not think Singaporeans are stupid, but we are soft hearted.
Precisely, why we shd never go to ktv if we are not in the right frame of mind and too soft hearted. Such playgrounds are killing fields.. Now i build a mental kc shield, one ear in one ear out attitude to what the girls tell me.
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Wat to do? I hv to import SYTs of my type directly from China. But the process is complicated...n many really great ones wont come. They only want to be kept in China.

Cheers!

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Kept in China basically means u pay premium for time-sharing. Unless u r there all the time, rest assured while u r on the plane back to Sin, she is already out partying with other guys. The amount to keep is probably more pricey than chionging over there.

Can never trust PRC girls in this manner..... If really want to keep in Sin, probably should look at girls from Uni n Polys here on real student passes.
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